Hello,
we have chosen a plot of land and would appreciate your feedback on our floor plan.
Zoning plan / restrictions
Plot size: 920m² (9900 sq ft approx.)
Slope: 5.5% over 31m (102 ft) from north to south
Site occupancy index (floor area ratio): 0.4
Floor space index: 0.6
Building window, building line and boundary: 5m (16 ft) setback from the street
Number of storeys: II = ground floor + attic
Roof style: gable roof 45°
Maximum heights / limits: 4.6m (15 ft)
Additional requirements:
Knee walls are only allowed for II = ground floor plus attic buildings and up to a maximum height of 75cm (30 inches), measured from the top edge of the raw ceiling to the bottom edge of the rafter at the outer wall.
The ridge of roof extensions must be at least 0.8m (2 ft 7 inches) lower than the ridge of the main residential building.
Architectural style, roof style, building type: gable roof single-family house
Basement, number of storeys: No basement, ground floor + attic
Number of occupants, ages: He 31, she 28
Office: a little home office + occasional guests
open architecture
modern construction style
open kitchen, kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6 (or 8 including ends)
Fireplace: No
Garage
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine:
- Geothermal heat pump with deep drilling
- Ventilation system with heat recovery
- Monolithic 36cm (14 inch) brick walls
- Electrically operated roller shutters centrally controlled (via PLC) on the ground floor
- Kitchen island
House design
Designed by:
- Do-it-yourself
Price estimate based on forum experience:
Plot including additional costs: €58k
House including ancillary building costs for ceiling and walls: €450k
Personal budget limit for house including fittings:
€530k
Preferred heating technology:
Geothermal; if not possible, then air source
If you have to give up features / extensions, which ones would you omit:
- Kitchen island
- Geothermal heat
Why was the design created this way?
Based on the forum and what we actually need
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
The sloping ceilings concern me a bit. On the upper floor plan, I drew a 1.2m (4 ft) line, where the ceiling height should be 2m (6 ft 7 inches). I assume a knee wall of 80cm (31 inches) (since 75cm (30 inches) is measured on the outside). Otherwise, we hope you can point out “blind spots” we no longer see 🙂
Thank you in advance for your constructive criticism.
I hope we haven’t forgotten anything.
Best regards
we have chosen a plot of land and would appreciate your feedback on our floor plan.
Zoning plan / restrictions
Plot size: 920m² (9900 sq ft approx.)
Slope: 5.5% over 31m (102 ft) from north to south
Site occupancy index (floor area ratio): 0.4
Floor space index: 0.6
Building window, building line and boundary: 5m (16 ft) setback from the street
Number of storeys: II = ground floor + attic
Roof style: gable roof 45°
Maximum heights / limits: 4.6m (15 ft)
Additional requirements:
Knee walls are only allowed for II = ground floor plus attic buildings and up to a maximum height of 75cm (30 inches), measured from the top edge of the raw ceiling to the bottom edge of the rafter at the outer wall.
The ridge of roof extensions must be at least 0.8m (2 ft 7 inches) lower than the ridge of the main residential building.
Architectural style, roof style, building type: gable roof single-family house
Basement, number of storeys: No basement, ground floor + attic
Number of occupants, ages: He 31, she 28
Office: a little home office + occasional guests
open architecture
modern construction style
open kitchen, kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6 (or 8 including ends)
Fireplace: No
Garage
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine:
- Geothermal heat pump with deep drilling
- Ventilation system with heat recovery
- Monolithic 36cm (14 inch) brick walls
- Electrically operated roller shutters centrally controlled (via PLC) on the ground floor
- Kitchen island
House design
Designed by:
- Do-it-yourself
Price estimate based on forum experience:
Plot including additional costs: €58k
House including ancillary building costs for ceiling and walls: €450k
Personal budget limit for house including fittings:
€530k
Preferred heating technology:
Geothermal; if not possible, then air source
If you have to give up features / extensions, which ones would you omit:
- Kitchen island
- Geothermal heat
Why was the design created this way?
Based on the forum and what we actually need
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
The sloping ceilings concern me a bit. On the upper floor plan, I drew a 1.2m (4 ft) line, where the ceiling height should be 2m (6 ft 7 inches). I assume a knee wall of 80cm (31 inches) (since 75cm (30 inches) is measured on the outside). Otherwise, we hope you can point out “blind spots” we no longer see 🙂
Thank you in advance for your constructive criticism.
I hope we haven’t forgotten anything.
Best regards
W
WilhelmRo21 Jan 2019 22:09ypg schrieb:
Stempelaugust I don’t know what’s going wrong with you right now, ypg... but your posts have completely lost any level of respect here. You are allowed to criticize, but please spare us your dismissive language. After all, you are a photographer, not just an "old camera"... It’s a shame that this is the only vocabulary you know to express yourself.
However, the term is now common in the green forum. I already discussed this topic a few posts ago: if you're unlucky, you might end up with someone who only copies the plan and doesn't care how to actually furnish a room that is 5 m (16 feet) long and only 2.5 m (8 feet) wide. Or even how it appears.
WilhelmRo schrieb:
I don’t know what’s going wrong with you right now, ypg...Nothing at all. But:
Maria16 schrieb:
Common practice in forums. I already mentioned this a few posts ago: if you’re unlucky, you end up with someone who just redraws your plan.This term “common practice” is used everywhere. That’s just how it is – a submission planner doesn’t design your house; they just prepare it for the building permit / planning permission process. Just look up professions online.
If it’s realistic, they will adopt all the mistakes, and in the end, you really won’t get a door frame installed in your door opening, just like 11ant described somewhere.
And who gets the blame? Me 😉
ypg schrieb:
If it is realistic, he will take responsibility for all mistakes Exactly – one example has already been given: laundry folds under a sloping ceiling. From a building regulation standpoint, this is completely allowed and therefore will not cause any objections during the building permit / planning permission process.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
ypg schrieb:
Nothing at all. But:
This term is everywhere. That’s just how it is—a draft planner does not design your house, they simply prepare it for approval.
Just try googling various professions.
If practical, they will adopt all mistakes, and in the end, you might indeed find you have no door frame in your doorway, just like 11ant described somewhere.
And who’s to blame? Me 😉 I can only agree with @ypg.@WilhelmRo We were in the same situation as you until the brother of a colleague, who is an architect, opened our eyes.
We then went to an architect and have never regretted that decision.
Everything I’ve seen from you so far isn’t very encouraging...
W
WilhelmRo14 Jun 2022 08:30Hello everyone,
some time has passed, and the dream of owning a house has become reality.
We moved in July 2020. In the end, this was the floor plan:
The bathroom upstairs has the shower rotated to the east, and the bathtub swapped sides with the sinks.
Our first child is a solid 5 weeks old and doesn’t use their bedroom yet, as they are still sleeping with us.
In total, the cost was about 520,000 euros.
Of that, 40,000 euros was for outdoor landscaping.
The 22,000 euros spent on photovoltaic panels and an energy storage system should be paid off after 8 years (now 6 years left).
We love our wood-aluminum windows, our parquet flooring, our 1.2m (4 feet) tiles, our 2.5m (8 feet) tiles in the shower, and the 2.75m (9 feet) ceiling height on the ground floor.
The ventilation system is also fantastic. Just for fun, we turned it off once in summer – then you really notice how much a slight airflow, which you usually don’t consciously perceive, is missing.
We also really appreciate the utility room upstairs. It works exactly as intended: undress in the bathroom – put dirty clothes in the utility room – wash and dry – then back into the dressing room. We might have given it just 10–20cm (4–8 inches) more space by now.
The kids’ rooms are “huge,” and so far no one has felt like they are narrow or cramped. (Or maybe everyone is just lying to us : )
The walk-in closet is barely used as such – it’s more a wardrobe room with a makeup corner for my wife. But the space itself is just fantastic.
The large open area for eating, cooking, and living on the ground floor is simply overwhelming. Cooking in the kitchen with an island is a real pleasure (which it never was for me before).
The technical room is large enough to store the stroller and baby carrier. There’s also space for work boots and drying all the wet jackets, which works great.
The office was and still is perfect for working remotely (back then, we didn’t yet know that Corona would make it necessary).
Actually, I only miss a few minor things, like a direct access to the garage and the mentioned extra 15cm (6 inches) in the utility room.
At first, I thought the pantry was too small, but with three shelving units, you can fit not only food supplies but also cleaning equipment.
Thanks again back then for your patience and constructive feedback : )
Best regards
some time has passed, and the dream of owning a house has become reality.
We moved in July 2020. In the end, this was the floor plan:
The bathroom upstairs has the shower rotated to the east, and the bathtub swapped sides with the sinks.
Our first child is a solid 5 weeks old and doesn’t use their bedroom yet, as they are still sleeping with us.
In total, the cost was about 520,000 euros.
Of that, 40,000 euros was for outdoor landscaping.
The 22,000 euros spent on photovoltaic panels and an energy storage system should be paid off after 8 years (now 6 years left).
We love our wood-aluminum windows, our parquet flooring, our 1.2m (4 feet) tiles, our 2.5m (8 feet) tiles in the shower, and the 2.75m (9 feet) ceiling height on the ground floor.
The ventilation system is also fantastic. Just for fun, we turned it off once in summer – then you really notice how much a slight airflow, which you usually don’t consciously perceive, is missing.
We also really appreciate the utility room upstairs. It works exactly as intended: undress in the bathroom – put dirty clothes in the utility room – wash and dry – then back into the dressing room. We might have given it just 10–20cm (4–8 inches) more space by now.
The kids’ rooms are “huge,” and so far no one has felt like they are narrow or cramped. (Or maybe everyone is just lying to us : )
The walk-in closet is barely used as such – it’s more a wardrobe room with a makeup corner for my wife. But the space itself is just fantastic.
The large open area for eating, cooking, and living on the ground floor is simply overwhelming. Cooking in the kitchen with an island is a real pleasure (which it never was for me before).
The technical room is large enough to store the stroller and baby carrier. There’s also space for work boots and drying all the wet jackets, which works great.
The office was and still is perfect for working remotely (back then, we didn’t yet know that Corona would make it necessary).
Actually, I only miss a few minor things, like a direct access to the garage and the mentioned extra 15cm (6 inches) in the utility room.
At first, I thought the pantry was too small, but with three shelving units, you can fit not only food supplies but also cleaning equipment.
Thanks again back then for your patience and constructive feedback : )
Best regards
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