ᐅ Is a turnkey construction project with a budget of 230,000 USD realistic in the Saarland region?

Created on: 14 Aug 2018 22:04
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nektus
Hello everyone,

We finally want to have our own home. The plan is, or what should be included:
- 2 full floors with about 140 - 145sqm (1507 - 1561 sq ft)
- Turnkey delivery excluding floor coverings and painting of walls
- Air source heat pump including underfloor heating
- Foundation slab
- Solid or prefabricated house doesn’t matter
- KfW 55 standard
- No garden, garage, or exterior landscaping

Our budget is 230,000 Euros just for the house. Land and additional construction costs will be separate.

We have an offer from Massa Haus that fits this range, but I’m not completely confident about it.

Is our building project even feasible?
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Caspar2020
15 Aug 2018 09:39
nektus schrieb:
Except for installing the same.

Your topic title says turnkey. The quote states that the materials for tiles, etc., are only included in the price. So, who installs everything?

For the shower, does the price cover just the shower tray, or is the glass panel included as well? Probably not...

The detailing/drawing is missing...
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Nordlys
15 Aug 2018 09:45
Conclusion. Please read carefully when dealing with Massa Haus and similar low-cost providers. They only appear cheap; they are not.
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nektus
15 Aug 2018 09:45
Nordlys schrieb:
Yes, of course. Easy to read.
For example, it says that all the insulation is only delivered, not installed.

On the other hand, it mentions drywall installation. That’s supposed to cover it.
Fuchur schrieb:
And the usual tricks with these "turnkey" offers: downspouts only go just above ground level, no drainage, no internal connections, the garage is only included as a design service, and so on. And especially no detailed quantity takeoff. Electrical and plumbing are usually major cost items.

What exactly does interior finishing as owner responsibility mean?

A garage is not planned at this point. Quantity takeoff is included, isn’t it? Wallpaper, doors, tiles, etc. Interior finishing as owner responsibility means we do the tiling and painting ourselves. But the materials will be supplied.

I’m not trying to defend the offer, just want to understand where the problem is.

ypg, why the aggressive “tone”?
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nektus
15 Aug 2018 09:49
Here is some information about the standard specifications and what should be included.

Side view of a catalog page with text passages about sanitary and bathroom fittings

Document page with price list for interior finishing, bathroom, tiles, and sanitary installations.
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Fuchur
15 Aug 2018 10:11
By “upgrading,” I mean choosing something higher quality than what is specified in the contract. An example from my own experience with a catalog home (from a different provider):

All bathrooms were included in full. But when looking at the sanitary fixtures, you quickly wish for something more “modern,” “nicer,” or “more practical.” So, swapping the included washbasin for an upgraded model meant that the upgrade cost was twice as much as buying the exact same basin separately in stores. And I had already paid for one in the contract. The same applies to the toilet, bathtub, shower fittings, and so on.

Example for electrical work: All-inclusive for us meant 36 power outlets in the house. Each additional one costs 94€. Network outlets were included as 100 Mbit connections. This is because a double socket is only wired with one cable. If you want two cables...

Have fun doing the math.
blackm8815 Aug 2018 10:26
Fuchur schrieb:
Example for electrical work: All-inclusive for us meant 36 sockets in the house. Each additional one costs €94. Network outlets included as 100 MBit connection. This is because a double outlet is only connected with one cable. If you want two cables....

In 2018?! ... omg.