ᐅ Single-family home floor plan of approximately 140 m² for discussion
Created on: 23 Apr 2018 21:41
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Phobos83
Good evening,
after reading along for a while, I’d finally like to start a thread myself and share our current floor plan for discussion, beginning with the details:
Development Plan/Restrictions:
Plot size: 961 m² (0.24 acres)
Slope: yes, about 3 m (10 feet) over the approximately 40 m (131 feet) slope to the south
Building envelope, building line, boundaries, orientation: see drawing
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof style: gable roof
Client Requirements:
Style, roof shape, building type: classic detached single-family house with a gable roof
Basement, floors: basement, 1.5 floors
Number of people, ages: two adults (each 34 years old), two children (0.7 and 3 years)
Space needs on ground floor: kitchen/dining, living room, guest toilet, office
Upper floor: bedroom, 2 children's rooms + bathroom
Office: mainly for family use
Overnight guests per year: negligible
Open or closed layout: open living area, closed hallway
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen without island
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage, see plans
Utility garden, greenhouse: to be added later for sure
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, gerne auch Begründungen, warum dieses oder das nicht sein soll:
It is important to us to have a pantry accessible from the kitchen as well as a small utility room in or adjacent to the bathroom, to do laundry where it is generated.
Further wishes: access through the garage and a ground-level entrance to the basement,
plus a fireplace, and a functional office on the ground floor
House Design:
Who designed the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Kitchen/pantry, garage access, “fair” room distribution upstairs, basement access
What do you not like? Why?
- ratio of office to living area, staircase, bathroom layout
Price estimate according to architect/planner: about $350,000 including basement and garage, mid-level finishing standard
Personal price limit for house including fittings: close to being reached
Preferred heating system: gas + solar + fireplace (water-based)
If you have to give up something, which features or expansions?
The office could, if necessary, (as currently depicted in the draft) also be located in the basement.
Why did the design turn out as it is now? For example:
Based on a rough sketch and our wishes.
What do you think makes it especially good or bad?
It definitely tries to accommodate all wishes, but we feel the overall concept is still not quite right.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
The living room feels too small to us; we’d prefer to take some space from the office. Main problem: the staircase and access get in the way.
Regarding the history:
We received our first draft about two months ago, which was a promising start. However, after two revisions, we feel somewhat stuck. Increasing the floor plan size from 8.5 x 10.5 m (28 x 34.4 feet) to 9 x 11 m (29.5 x 36 feet) to allow more flexibility has not really worked on the ground floor. The office is now bigger, but we still don’t fully like the living room area. We would have preferred to gain more space so that the living room extends deeper around the corner near the fireplace—especially since the sliding door towards the kitchen was removed. Should we reposition the staircase differently and keep it more open, or route access through the living room? The large office has the advantage of being usable as an additional (children’s) room if necessary. But since the design is basically final, less space could also suffice here.
Upstairs, the rooms are certainly spacious enough now. However, the bathroom raises the question of whether the access with another door is well thought out. In the very first draft, the small utility room was completely separate; in the second, it was removed due to space constraints. In any case, we prefer a “T-layout” of toilet/shower/sink, so this area will still need some adjustment.
Unfortunately, I can only show the latest exterior design. For the basement, I would prefer to relocate the entrance (sheltered) under the terrace.
That’s the current situation. I have uploaded the two drafts for ground and upper floors for comparison.
We are open to advice, suggestions, and of course criticism. At the moment, we wonder if we are simply trying to fit too much into a house of this size and are missing the forest for the trees. Therefore, an objective external perspective would be greatly appreciated.
after reading along for a while, I’d finally like to start a thread myself and share our current floor plan for discussion, beginning with the details:
Development Plan/Restrictions:
Plot size: 961 m² (0.24 acres)
Slope: yes, about 3 m (10 feet) over the approximately 40 m (131 feet) slope to the south
Building envelope, building line, boundaries, orientation: see drawing
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof style: gable roof
Client Requirements:
Style, roof shape, building type: classic detached single-family house with a gable roof
Basement, floors: basement, 1.5 floors
Number of people, ages: two adults (each 34 years old), two children (0.7 and 3 years)
Space needs on ground floor: kitchen/dining, living room, guest toilet, office
Upper floor: bedroom, 2 children's rooms + bathroom
Office: mainly for family use
Overnight guests per year: negligible
Open or closed layout: open living area, closed hallway
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen without island
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage, see plans
Utility garden, greenhouse: to be added later for sure
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, gerne auch Begründungen, warum dieses oder das nicht sein soll:
It is important to us to have a pantry accessible from the kitchen as well as a small utility room in or adjacent to the bathroom, to do laundry where it is generated.
Further wishes: access through the garage and a ground-level entrance to the basement,
plus a fireplace, and a functional office on the ground floor
House Design:
Who designed the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Kitchen/pantry, garage access, “fair” room distribution upstairs, basement access
What do you not like? Why?
- ratio of office to living area, staircase, bathroom layout
Price estimate according to architect/planner: about $350,000 including basement and garage, mid-level finishing standard
Personal price limit for house including fittings: close to being reached
Preferred heating system: gas + solar + fireplace (water-based)
If you have to give up something, which features or expansions?
The office could, if necessary, (as currently depicted in the draft) also be located in the basement.
Why did the design turn out as it is now? For example:
Based on a rough sketch and our wishes.
What do you think makes it especially good or bad?
It definitely tries to accommodate all wishes, but we feel the overall concept is still not quite right.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
The living room feels too small to us; we’d prefer to take some space from the office. Main problem: the staircase and access get in the way.
Regarding the history:
We received our first draft about two months ago, which was a promising start. However, after two revisions, we feel somewhat stuck. Increasing the floor plan size from 8.5 x 10.5 m (28 x 34.4 feet) to 9 x 11 m (29.5 x 36 feet) to allow more flexibility has not really worked on the ground floor. The office is now bigger, but we still don’t fully like the living room area. We would have preferred to gain more space so that the living room extends deeper around the corner near the fireplace—especially since the sliding door towards the kitchen was removed. Should we reposition the staircase differently and keep it more open, or route access through the living room? The large office has the advantage of being usable as an additional (children’s) room if necessary. But since the design is basically final, less space could also suffice here.
Upstairs, the rooms are certainly spacious enough now. However, the bathroom raises the question of whether the access with another door is well thought out. In the very first draft, the small utility room was completely separate; in the second, it was removed due to space constraints. In any case, we prefer a “T-layout” of toilet/shower/sink, so this area will still need some adjustment.
Unfortunately, I can only show the latest exterior design. For the basement, I would prefer to relocate the entrance (sheltered) under the terrace.
That’s the current situation. I have uploaded the two drafts for ground and upper floors for comparison.
We are open to advice, suggestions, and of course criticism. At the moment, we wonder if we are simply trying to fit too much into a house of this size and are missing the forest for the trees. Therefore, an objective external perspective would be greatly appreciated.
The smoker belongs to the kitchen and dining area.
YPG wants fewer levels, less enclosed space, and a larger open-plan area. You would also like the classic basement utility rooms such as pantry and laundry to be located on the floors where they are needed.
Otherwise, pantry, laundry, and office in the basement.
Ground floor: living, dining, kitchen, toilet, entrance with wardrobe
Upper floor: bedroom, 2 children's rooms, bathroom, and laundry chute
YPG wants fewer levels, less enclosed space, and a larger open-plan area. You would also like the classic basement utility rooms such as pantry and laundry to be located on the floors where they are needed.
Otherwise, pantry, laundry, and office in the basement.
Ground floor: living, dining, kitchen, toilet, entrance with wardrobe
Upper floor: bedroom, 2 children's rooms, bathroom, and laundry chute
Yes, I know.
Unfortunately, I like basements, which I probably inherited from my grandmother, who, at over 92 years old, still rushes up and down the stairs every day, even though it would be much more convenient to stay on the main floor.
But it’s not just out of habit; it’s also because of hobbies and preferences. Besides, we try to do the laundry where it’s generated and keep the most important kitchen utensils close at hand there.
It’s just a pity that I can’t share a picture of the kitchen. The kitchen planner captured our taste perfectly, especially the solution with the pantry and the refrigerator.
We also liked the idea of positioning the dining table directly next to the countertop. It would just need to be movable when we have more guests.
And here the living room and the fireplace get a bit in the way. We have to arrange things more around the corner. We really like the solution here, although we have considered a slightly smaller/simpler model:
Unfortunately, I like basements, which I probably inherited from my grandmother, who, at over 92 years old, still rushes up and down the stairs every day, even though it would be much more convenient to stay on the main floor.
But it’s not just out of habit; it’s also because of hobbies and preferences. Besides, we try to do the laundry where it’s generated and keep the most important kitchen utensils close at hand there.
It’s just a pity that I can’t share a picture of the kitchen. The kitchen planner captured our taste perfectly, especially the solution with the pantry and the refrigerator.
We also liked the idea of positioning the dining table directly next to the countertop. It would just need to be movable when we have more guests.
And here the living room and the fireplace get a bit in the way. We have to arrange things more around the corner. We really like the solution here, although we have considered a slightly smaller/simpler model:
Ok, if the balcony is already firmly decided and established, it’s pointless to try to convince the original poster about the wonderful garden access directly from the kitchen. Sometimes you just have to accept that different people have different preferences.
I would actually relocate the utility room on the upper floor in favor of a laundry chute going down to the basement. From there, you can conveniently hang the laundry outside.
For the kitchen, I would definitely start with a plan. Cabinets are usually 60cm (24 inches) wide, so you should aim for at least a 3m (10 feet) countertop next to the pantry. 2.40m (8 feet) feels cramped and tight to me. What is currently drawn would be just an uncomfortably narrow corner.
If the entrance from the garage is that important to you, why not move it there right away? It would look like this—from left to right: garage, small canopy, entrance. This saves space for more important rooms like the pantry and bathroom. Besides, you still have a basement entrance. Exterior doors aren’t cheap—having three seems a bit excessive.
I would actually relocate the utility room on the upper floor in favor of a laundry chute going down to the basement. From there, you can conveniently hang the laundry outside.
For the kitchen, I would definitely start with a plan. Cabinets are usually 60cm (24 inches) wide, so you should aim for at least a 3m (10 feet) countertop next to the pantry. 2.40m (8 feet) feels cramped and tight to me. What is currently drawn would be just an uncomfortably narrow corner.
If the entrance from the garage is that important to you, why not move it there right away? It would look like this—from left to right: garage, small canopy, entrance. This saves space for more important rooms like the pantry and bathroom. Besides, you still have a basement entrance. Exterior doors aren’t cheap—having three seems a bit excessive.
Hello everyone,
I just want to quickly chime in as the wife of the original poster.
We have already had a wonderful dream kitchen designed, but we haven’t received the plan yet because we still need to carefully choose all the appliances, cabinet fronts, and so on (and of course purchase the kitchen). The kitchen planner can’t and won’t go through the plan with us until the house plan is completely finished, so the draftsman can’t accurately incorporate the kitchen layout yet.
This "U-shaped kitchen" already has the correct dimensions, no worries.
I do not want a utility room or pantry in the basement.
I cook every day, and I definitely don’t want to have to run down to the basement every time I need a package of pasta. (It would be good exercise, but I prefer to get that in other ways )
My husband and I both suffer from pollen allergies, so unfortunately I cannot hang our laundry outside.
The laundry room must stay upstairs!
Thank you for your input. Right now, the main focus is really on the ground floor, especially on the living room/office area.
Best regards, Katrin
I just want to quickly chime in as the wife of the original poster.
We have already had a wonderful dream kitchen designed, but we haven’t received the plan yet because we still need to carefully choose all the appliances, cabinet fronts, and so on (and of course purchase the kitchen). The kitchen planner can’t and won’t go through the plan with us until the house plan is completely finished, so the draftsman can’t accurately incorporate the kitchen layout yet.
This "U-shaped kitchen" already has the correct dimensions, no worries.
I do not want a utility room or pantry in the basement.
I cook every day, and I definitely don’t want to have to run down to the basement every time I need a package of pasta. (It would be good exercise, but I prefer to get that in other ways )
My husband and I both suffer from pollen allergies, so unfortunately I cannot hang our laundry outside.
The laundry room must stay upstairs!
Thank you for your input. Right now, the main focus is really on the ground floor, especially on the living room/office area.
Best regards, Katrin
Phobos83 schrieb:
Hello everyone,
I need to step in briefly as the wife of the OP. Ah, finally the decision-maker is at the keyboard.
Just to clarify, the kitchen is fully planned and matches the dimensions shown in EG-neu.jpg? Or could it be arranged differently so that someone could actually sit at the dining table without struggling for space?
How precise are the storey height, ceiling height, knee wall height, and roof pitch?
Would an office in the basement (or lower ground floor) also be an option?
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