ᐅ Initial floor plan draft of the ground floor

RobsonMKK schrieb:
You can use a HOAI calculator; it will show you exactly the cost for each service phase. With over 30,000 you are already almost at service phases 1-8.

The price, of course, referred to full support by an architect throughout the entire process.

So, if the architect handles all the project phases, an hourly rate of 30k is not overwhelming. The effort is difficult to estimate before construction, especially since most clients request several planning iterations and changes during execution.

Tentakel schrieb:
especially because most clients want a few more planning rounds and changes during construction.

Hehe, the HOAI cannot predict that some clients have already gone through the first seven layout rounds in an online forum

And, as mentioned, fees are negotiable. Especially with younger and "smaller" architects. You don’t have to push it too far, but there is definitely a market economy at work here. An architect is not a notary.

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MIA_SAN_MIA__ schrieb:
The price obviously referred to complete support by an architect.

Now think about how many hours of your valuable free time you will need to spend on preparing requests for quotations and so on. Then set a realistic hourly rate for your free time (what else could you be doing with your partner/friend/family instead). Multiply that by the number of hours... and then grab the yellow pages and find a contractor who can do it for you [emoji6] a bit ironic, but think about it.

Also, an architect is not a notary: prices can always be lower, but a maximum price is set.

RobsonMKK schrieb:
And an architect is not a notary: it can always be cheaper, a maximum price is simply defined.

I wouldn’t call it a maximum price, more like a "reference value." By "not a notary," I meant less the amount, and more that the architect has more freedom to agree on different fees – or from the client's perspective: is allowed to respond to market conditions.

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That is clear to me already, fee schedule versus guideline. However, an architect must have valid reasons to offer services based on the HOAI.