Hello, today I had to wait for an hour and only had my notebook with me... so I just doodled a bit.
This is my very first draft of the ground floor, and it probably still has quite a few mistakes.
What I’m curious about is whether there are any major errors here (for example, the staircase?).
North is at the bottom right.
One square represents half a meter (0.5 m / 20 inches).
This is my very first draft of the ground floor, and it probably still has quite a few mistakes.
What I’m curious about is whether there are any major errors here (for example, the staircase?).
North is at the bottom right.
One square represents half a meter (0.5 m / 20 inches).
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MIA_SAN_MIA__30 Nov 2017 21:45The problem is more about your lack of imagination. I need to redraw everything differently for you, including the pantry. Although I think the door into the utility room also looks a bit odd.
Unfortunately, the chute can’t exit into the utility room. I actually think the solution is pretty good as it is.
Unfortunately, the chute can’t exit into the utility room. I actually think the solution is pretty good as it is.
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MIA_SAN_MIA__1 Dec 2017 07:31Good morning,
I only wrote a few messages on my phone yesterday during the Christmas party, and I noticed there are still some points that could cause misunderstandings.
The wardrobe behind the tall cabinets would only become a wardrobe if the sink cabinet and the tall cabinets were swapped. Where it is now, it obviously doesn’t make sense. In this case, it serves as a storage space for the vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, shoes, and jackets that are not used daily...
The wardrobe would be integrated directly into the entrance area in this case. Something like that, or similar.
I also noticed that the door at the back has not yet been converted into a window. This still needs to be considered. Since we can exit through the garage anyway, we don’t need an additional door on the north side. We still need to discuss the extra door into the garage. It would have to be equipped with fingerprint access; otherwise, it defeats the purpose if I can enter through the front door with fingerprint access but have to unlock the side door manually.
I find the tall cabinets quite close to the workspace on the island, considering the island measures 200cm by 90cm (79 inches by 35 inches)?
I marked it as an example on this picture.
I only wrote a few messages on my phone yesterday during the Christmas party, and I noticed there are still some points that could cause misunderstandings.
The wardrobe behind the tall cabinets would only become a wardrobe if the sink cabinet and the tall cabinets were swapped. Where it is now, it obviously doesn’t make sense. In this case, it serves as a storage space for the vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, shoes, and jackets that are not used daily...
The wardrobe would be integrated directly into the entrance area in this case. Something like that, or similar.
I also noticed that the door at the back has not yet been converted into a window. This still needs to be considered. Since we can exit through the garage anyway, we don’t need an additional door on the north side. We still need to discuss the extra door into the garage. It would have to be equipped with fingerprint access; otherwise, it defeats the purpose if I can enter through the front door with fingerprint access but have to unlock the side door manually.
I find the tall cabinets quite close to the workspace on the island, considering the island measures 200cm by 90cm (79 inches by 35 inches)?
I marked it as an example on this picture.
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MIA_SAN_MIA__1 Dec 2017 07:4811ant schrieb:
I would shift the kitchen slightly in a straight line to get the straight wall on the ground floor and basement like on the upper floor. This doesn’t affect the terrace but avoids a lot of structural complexity. You don’t have to give up on designing the kitchen as a visually distinct building element.Do you mean on the east side near the front door? I think that would make the bay window look awkward if the overhang is not included there as well.
I would keep the pantry where it is. Rooms without windows are really unpleasant, even if it’s just a storage room. We recently had a single-use glass leak and start to smell badly. It’s a relief to be able to open a window in situations like that.
What I don’t like about the floor plan is the long distance from the kitchen to the dining table (not to mention the walk to the sofa). In my opinion, this space is wasted. Sure, you can dance there – which isn’t bad – but what else? If you also consider the bay window for the kitchen, that’s a nice luxury. However, I wonder if it really adds value, or if the amount of walking would quickly become annoying.
If saving money is not an issue, leave it as it is. Otherwise, I would move the kitchen closer and place the pantry behind it. Remove the bay window and use the money saved to install real wood flooring or something similar.
(just a sketch for understanding!)
What I don’t like about the floor plan is the long distance from the kitchen to the dining table (not to mention the walk to the sofa). In my opinion, this space is wasted. Sure, you can dance there – which isn’t bad – but what else? If you also consider the bay window for the kitchen, that’s a nice luxury. However, I wonder if it really adds value, or if the amount of walking would quickly become annoying.
If saving money is not an issue, leave it as it is. Otherwise, I would move the kitchen closer and place the pantry behind it. Remove the bay window and use the money saved to install real wood flooring or something similar.
(just a sketch for understanding!)
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MIA_SAN_MIA__1 Dec 2017 09:45@kaho674
We also considered that but dismissed it for two reasons. First, it would spoil the window view facing south, and second, access to the pantry would be difficult or wouldn’t look good. Routing around as in your sketch is out of the question, and going “through” the kitchen cabinets is not appealing to us.
If I calculate a table length of 2.20 meters (7 feet 3 inches), I need at least 4.20 meters (13 feet 9 inches) of space. If I then move the door to the living area and place a dresser or something similar next to the tall kitchen cabinets/pantry, the total space required is almost 5 meters (16 feet 5 inches), compared to 6.30 meters (20 feet 8 inches) available. It’s a lot of space, I agree, but you do need it when guests are over. We don’t want to cram everything in, since the kids should still have space to play on the floor, which should be visible from the kitchen. It was intentional that the living area is somewhat separate and slightly partitioned. I don’t need to walk to the fridge every five minutes when I’m lying on the couch.
I’m now wondering whether it might be better to separate the door to the garage from inside the house and instead have the entrance to the garage before the front door. This way, you could enter the garage with dirty garden clothes without opening the garage door or having to walk all the way around the house. Then you could also install a nice cloakroom in the vestibule, killing two birds with one stone.
The only remaining issue is that the walk-in closet doesn’t have a window. To be honest, I haven’t found a solution for that yet...
We also considered that but dismissed it for two reasons. First, it would spoil the window view facing south, and second, access to the pantry would be difficult or wouldn’t look good. Routing around as in your sketch is out of the question, and going “through” the kitchen cabinets is not appealing to us.
If I calculate a table length of 2.20 meters (7 feet 3 inches), I need at least 4.20 meters (13 feet 9 inches) of space. If I then move the door to the living area and place a dresser or something similar next to the tall kitchen cabinets/pantry, the total space required is almost 5 meters (16 feet 5 inches), compared to 6.30 meters (20 feet 8 inches) available. It’s a lot of space, I agree, but you do need it when guests are over. We don’t want to cram everything in, since the kids should still have space to play on the floor, which should be visible from the kitchen. It was intentional that the living area is somewhat separate and slightly partitioned. I don’t need to walk to the fridge every five minutes when I’m lying on the couch.
I’m now wondering whether it might be better to separate the door to the garage from inside the house and instead have the entrance to the garage before the front door. This way, you could enter the garage with dirty garden clothes without opening the garage door or having to walk all the way around the house. Then you could also install a nice cloakroom in the vestibule, killing two birds with one stone.
The only remaining issue is that the walk-in closet doesn’t have a window. To be honest, I haven’t found a solution for that yet...
MIA_SAN_MIA__ schrieb:
Do you mean on the east side by the front door? I think the bay window looks awkward if there isn’t an overhang there as well. That’s exactly what I mean, and visually it can be adjusted. You can read about how this structural issue was thoroughly discussed in R.Hotzenplotz’s house thread. I see a clear imbalance between the extra effort required for the structural insulation connections and the "gain" in visual finesse, and conversely, the visual goal can be achieved with much less effort.
MIA_SAN_MIA__ schrieb:
I’m currently considering whether the door to the garage should be separated from the house and accessed from the front door area already, leading directly into the garage. I really like that idea, and in my opinion, it would practically mean pushing the garage forward by up to half a meter (about 1.5 feet) if the front door position is to remain unchanged.
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