ᐅ Types of Windows: Single- or Double-Leaf, Which Widths – Experiences?

Payday schrieb:
So now open the divided window at the top properly and leave your daughter alone in the room. Would you do that? If not, then the protection is more than inadequate!

You don’t even have to be particularly agile as a child to get hurt. This type of railing is also less intended for adults, who can fall from over 90cm (35 inches)

What nonsense. I can create thousands of life-threatening situations for my children at home if I act recklessly. I don’t go into my workshop with my little ones, turn on the circular saw, and leave my daughter alone with it. Or, or, or. Besides that, we have a controlled residential ventilation system; the windows are only opened briefly for cleaning. And our daughter has been able to move objects around and climb for a long time, so even additional centimeters of height wouldn’t provide much protection.

Saruss schrieb:
That’s nonsense. I can create thousands of life-threatening situations for my children at home if I act negligently. I certainly wouldn’t take my little ones into my workshop, turn on the circular saw, and leave the child alone with it. Or Or Or. Besides, we have a controlled ventilation system, and the windows are only opened for cleaning at most. Our daughter has long been able to move objects around and climb up, so a few more centimeters of height wouldn’t provide any real protection.

As an engineer, you should know that rules are not made based on logic. The regulation is EXACTLY meant for the case I described above. If a child is really doing something "complex," they can always fall anywhere, and you cannot avoid your duty of supervision. But if falling is made easy as described, that is more than negligent and simply not allowed by law. A circular saw is a poor example, and the ventilation system is no excuse for this method. What if in three years the system is turned off and the room is ventilated by opening the windows? People know plenty of excuses by now. The only solution would be if the window can only be tilted at the top and proper opening is mechanically prevented permanently.

Payday schrieb:
As an engineer, you should know that regulations are not always based on logic. The rule is EXACTLY made for the case I mentioned above. If a child really does something "complicated," they can fall out anytime and anywhere, and you cannot avoid your duty of supervision. But if falling out is made as easy as described, it is more than negligent and simply not allowed by law. A circular saw is a ridiculous example, and the ventilation system is no excuse for this method. What if the system is switched off and ventilated in three years? People have enough excuses.
The only option would be that the window can only be tilted from the top and that proper opening is mechanically permanently prevented.

My windows comply with regulations, completely legal, without a French balcony, fully according to the law, no matter how logical or illogical that may be.
As soon as a window can be opened more than just tilted, in my opinion there is always a risk of children falling out (even adults occasionally fall out).
My little one already moves chairs or similar objects to places she should not reach, so the window height is almost irrelevant. I don’t see where I would really make it easier otherwise, except that nothing can be pushed up against the window.

We don’t need to discuss the logic behind laws and regulations. If the legislator requires a 90cm (35 inches) parapet height in one piece without a step, then that’s simply how it is.

We (or rather I) would have preferred floor-to-ceiling windows without the fixed lower part and without the grille in front. However, that’s not allowed, so the matter is settled. Instead, we now have a design that most others in the area don’t have. Most have the French-style windows with a grille or don’t have floor-to-ceiling windows at all.

Payday schrieb:


we (or rather I) would have preferred floor-to-ceiling windows without the fixed part at the bottom and without the grille in front. but it’s not allowed, and that’s that. instead, we now have a version that not everyone else in the area has. most have the French style with grilles or don’t have floor-to-ceiling windows at all.

Fully agree.

I would have liked that on the upper floor as well.

When I realized that it means having those grilles everywhere AND it’s even more expensive because of that, my Swabian heart skipped a beat. So I went for the split option (floor-to-ceiling, but only able to open above 90cm (35 inches)).

Saved money. No grilles—which I really don’t like—I see those all over the neighborhood. Looks like they’re just stuck onto the house. Not my thing.

And honestly: okay, I can’t open the windows on the upper floor fully to the floor. Fine. But whether I could and had that grille at knee height, or now I can’t but have a solid piece of window… almost makes no difference, at least for me.

Best regards
Thorsten