ᐅ Toilet connection not on the wall or on the floor

Created on: 30 Nov 2015 23:08
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tester23
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tester23
30 Nov 2015 23:08
Hello everyone,

I want to renovate my bathroom, including tiles and a new toilet. Now I see a toilet connection that is partly on the wall and partly on the floor. I haven’t found a single toilet that fits this type of connection.

What could be done in this situation?

Bathroom with toilet, sink, bathtub, and pink tiles
Jochen1041 Dec 2015 09:54
Hello,
If I were you, I would install a proper stud wall (about 1.20m (4 feet) high) with a built-in concealed cistern and then mount the toilet in front of it. This will make the space around your bathtub a bit tight, but that depends on your overall bathroom layout.
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tester23
1 Dec 2015 10:05
Jochen104 schrieb:
Hello,
In your situation, I would install a proper stud wall (about 1.20m (4 feet)) high with a built-in concealed cistern, then mount a toilet in front of it. This will make the space tight with your bathtub, but that depends on the overall bathroom layout.

Hello, with stud walls, the connection is usually designed for a standard floor-mounted toilet. My connection is partly on the wall and partly on the floor. Do I need to completely relocate the connection, or is there another option?
Jochen1041 Dec 2015 10:28
With common concealed cisterns (e.g., from Geberit) and some piping materials from a hardware store, it should be no problem to connect to the drainage. However, you should make sure that everything is properly sealed (install seals correctly), because it won’t be easy to access later on.
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FrankH
1 Dec 2015 14:12
If you’re planning to replace the tiles anyway, you should also have all the pipes behind the tiles inspected and possibly replaced. It looks to me like the bathroom has seen better days, so the condition of the pipes is probably not ideal anymore. What will you do if you just had the tiles replaced and then a pipe bursts? This isn’t the first time something like that has happened. My plumber recently had a customer with the same issue. Despite advice, the customer didn’t want to replace the pipes because it meant accessing them through the stairwell, which had just been renovated. Two weeks later, there was a water pipe emergency and they had to intervene again. The only upside: part of the cost might be covered by insurance.

Perhaps the risk feels higher when someone has already worked on the old tiles with a jackhammer or similar tools, and nothing would have happened if nobody had touched anything. In my opinion, it’s worth considering doing everything at once, and then you can have peace of mind for another 20 to 30 years.

In that case, the issue with the toilet’s drain pipe within the frame is the smaller problem. Plus, you’ll end up with a nice bathroom that meets the current technical standards. Unfortunately, such a renovation is not cheap.
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tester23
1 Dec 2015 15:12
FrankH schrieb:
If you’re having the tiles replaced anyway, you should also have all the pipes behind the tiles inspected and possibly reinstalled. It looks to me like the bathroom has seen better days, and the condition of the pipes is probably not perfect anymore. What will you do if you just had the tiles redone and then a pipe breaks? This is not an uncommon situation. My plumber had a case like this a few weeks ago where the customer didn’t want to replace the pipes despite the recommendation, because access was through the stairwell which had just been renovated. Two weeks later, there was an emergency due to a water pipe break and they had to do the work again. The only upside: part of the cost might be covered by insurance.

Maybe the risk seems higher if someone has already chipped away at the old tiles with a hammer or similar, while nothing would have happened if nobody had touched anything. In my opinion, it makes sense to do everything at once, and then you can have peace of mind for 20-30 years.

Then the issue with the toilet drain pipe within the wall frame is the lesser problem. And afterwards, you’ll have a nice bathroom up to current technical standards. Unfortunately, such a renovation is not cheap.

So, is relocating a drainage pipe not a big deal?