Hello everyone,
We are currently at the shell construction stage and are thinking about how to manage all the waste in the kitchen: plastic, organic waste, paper, glass, and general trash. Our current kitchen is practically full because of this.
We have considered installing a waste chute in the exterior kitchen wall to directly dispose of the waste into the outdoor bins. This would mean having five small openings with pipes in the wall, and outside, the waste bins would be placed under the pipes to be filled directly. You could simply throw the waste into the wall from the kitchen, and it would be gone.
Has anyone had experience with this or built something like it themselves?
Something like this, just smaller for the kitchen.
We are currently at the shell construction stage and are thinking about how to manage all the waste in the kitchen: plastic, organic waste, paper, glass, and general trash. Our current kitchen is practically full because of this.
We have considered installing a waste chute in the exterior kitchen wall to directly dispose of the waste into the outdoor bins. This would mean having five small openings with pipes in the wall, and outside, the waste bins would be placed under the pipes to be filled directly. You could simply throw the waste into the wall from the kitchen, and it would be gone.
Has anyone had experience with this or built something like it themselves?
Something like this, just smaller for the kitchen.
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nordanney30 Jan 2020 13:22Kampfkarnickel schrieb:
Does anyone have experience with this or have built something like this themselves?I think it’s a great idea. Here are some suggestions:1. Place the kitchen at least on the upper floor, otherwise the waste won’t slide down properly. Alternatively, put the openings on the ground floor ceiling leading to the upper floor and install a rollable ladder. This also saves you from having windows on one wall, since the construction will require quite a bit of space.
2. Finally, a proposal for sensible basement use. You could build an internal chute accessible from the ground floor. Position five bins in the basement and build a proper access. That way, you make useful use of half the basement and don’t fill it with unnecessary stuff.
Irony off.
I currently live in an apartment building with about 30 units (terrible!!!). With proper waste separation, two 80-liter (21-gallon) bins for residual waste and two 80-liter (21-gallon) bins for organic waste, emptied weekly, are enough. It’s really easy. Every four weeks, 1-2 yellow bags and paper are taken out whenever you go out along with the bins.
What is your idea for handling your waste? A kitchen waste drawer and you’re done.
For plastic waste, there is the bin—you don’t have to store everything temporarily in bags. Just put out the black (general waste) and organic waste directly. You can store paper in the basement if you want, or simply have four bins outside.
Believe me, this will cause more problems in the house than you expect. It will cost a lot of money and consume energy. Additionally, you will need to clean it quite often because something will always spill. Unless you pack everything almost airtight before disposing of it. But then you might as well just take the bags straight outside.
I have one; you just need to get it approved.
Believe me, this will cause more problems in the house than you expect. It will cost a lot of money and consume energy. Additionally, you will need to clean it quite often because something will always spill. Unless you pack everything almost airtight before disposing of it. But then you might as well just take the bags straight outside.
Tamstar schrieb:
What I sometimes wish for is a garbage disposal in the sink like in American TV shows... is that not allowed here?
I have one; you just need to get it approved.
Separate enclosure for trash bins should be planned as part of the thermal envelope. Alternatively, look for a flap with thermal transmittance (U-values) similar to windows and have it installed according to relevant technical standards to avoid thermal bridges. Another option is to use small windows instead of flaps; this way, you can monitor the trash and immediately see whether the egg shell thief is a raccoon or a fox. Do I even need to mention the sarcasm mode? :P
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Kampfkarnickel30 Jan 2020 13:52Oh, you’re all so silly.... *crying*
Are we the only ones this bad with trash? We currently rent a house with a small kitchen (just enough space for bowls and pots under the countertop). In one corner of the kitchen, we have 10 glass bottles on the floor (wine bottles, tomato paste jars, vodka bottles) that we occasionally carry down to the basement and put into a box there. Then there’s this plastic container with a yellow bag inside that tears open every few weeks because of a sharp-edged can. We take that down to the basement once a week, and in summer there are maggots because of the not completely empty yogurt cups. Then we have a small brown bag standing around for organic waste, which we take out to the bin every 1-2 days. We also have a black bucket with a bag inside for residual waste and a separate stack for paper recycling. All of this is currently standing in the kitchen next to the aquarium... There’s no other place in the kitchen at the moment, and under the sink area always filled up way too quickly.
In the new kitchen, maybe it would be better to build trash bins under the countertop, but that’s never really practical either. The organic waste bin needs to be washed constantly to prevent it from rotting and smelling. The plastic bag is too big to fit under the kitchen cabinets, and having a smaller bag inside that is later stuffed into the bigger one—which then tears—is also not great. (We only have bags and no bin for plastics here.) For the pipe setup, I’m thinking of getting a plastic bin for the plastic bag in case it tears.
Are we the only ones this bad with trash? We currently rent a house with a small kitchen (just enough space for bowls and pots under the countertop). In one corner of the kitchen, we have 10 glass bottles on the floor (wine bottles, tomato paste jars, vodka bottles) that we occasionally carry down to the basement and put into a box there. Then there’s this plastic container with a yellow bag inside that tears open every few weeks because of a sharp-edged can. We take that down to the basement once a week, and in summer there are maggots because of the not completely empty yogurt cups. Then we have a small brown bag standing around for organic waste, which we take out to the bin every 1-2 days. We also have a black bucket with a bag inside for residual waste and a separate stack for paper recycling. All of this is currently standing in the kitchen next to the aquarium... There’s no other place in the kitchen at the moment, and under the sink area always filled up way too quickly.
In the new kitchen, maybe it would be better to build trash bins under the countertop, but that’s never really practical either. The organic waste bin needs to be washed constantly to prevent it from rotting and smelling. The plastic bag is too big to fit under the kitchen cabinets, and having a smaller bag inside that is later stuffed into the bigger one—which then tears—is also not great. (We only have bags and no bin for plastics here.) For the pipe setup, I’m thinking of getting a plastic bin for the plastic bag in case it tears.
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Fummelbrett!30 Jan 2020 13:54Hmm, it’s probably quite unpleasant in the summer when food waste is sent down the drain outside and after a few days, maggots crawl back into the kitchen…
It’s better to plan a spacious outdoor trash shed. Cardboard boxes can be cut up and disposed of right outside, general waste should be taken out every few days, and glass recycling whenever it accumulates. Inside the kitchen, just plan a base cabinet with separate compartments for general waste, organic waste, a small paper bin, and possibly an interim container for plastics. For plastics, have a bin for the yellow sack system (recycling bag) placed in the trash shed or the storage room.
I’m not against unconventional and labor-saving solutions, but in my opinion, your idea isn’t well thought through. Over time, it will create more work, more waste, and more odor.
It’s better to plan a spacious outdoor trash shed. Cardboard boxes can be cut up and disposed of right outside, general waste should be taken out every few days, and glass recycling whenever it accumulates. Inside the kitchen, just plan a base cabinet with separate compartments for general waste, organic waste, a small paper bin, and possibly an interim container for plastics. For plastics, have a bin for the yellow sack system (recycling bag) placed in the trash shed or the storage room.
I’m not against unconventional and labor-saving solutions, but in my opinion, your idea isn’t well thought through. Over time, it will create more work, more waste, and more odor.
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nordanney30 Jan 2020 14:04You can also collect organic waste in a regular trash bag within the waste system and then empty the bag into the bin.
You can, like most homeowners probably do, install a waste separation system in the drawer or compartment under the sink. For example, three plastic containers (residual waste, organic waste, recycling), and when one container is full, you just empty it. That’s how I’ve always done it (in my last four houses/apartments).
You can, like most homeowners probably do, install a waste separation system in the drawer or compartment under the sink. For example, three plastic containers (residual waste, organic waste, recycling), and when one container is full, you just empty it. That’s how I’ve always done it (in my last four houses/apartments).
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