ᐅ Waste Disposal in the Kitchen / Wall Opening

Created on: 30 Jan 2020 12:17
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Kampfkarnickel
Hello everyone,

We are currently at the shell construction stage and are thinking about how to manage all the waste in the kitchen: plastic, organic waste, paper, glass, and general trash. Our current kitchen is practically full because of this.

We have considered installing a waste chute in the exterior kitchen wall to directly dispose of the waste into the outdoor bins. This would mean having five small openings with pipes in the wall, and outside, the waste bins would be placed under the pipes to be filled directly. You could simply throw the waste into the wall from the kitchen, and it would be gone.

Has anyone had experience with this or built something like it themselves?


Several round ventilation fans with metal ducts in a building services installation

Wall-mounted metal box with a drop flap; a hand reaches in


Something like this, just smaller for the kitchen.
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apokolok
3 Feb 2020 10:49
ypg schrieb:

As you said yourself, that is not residual waste.
I find your approach to handling plastic irresponsible!

Well, you can put your moralizing back in your recycling bin...

As already mentioned, all this sorting is a much lazier compromise than most would like to admit.
The huge amount of packaging is simply a problem, and recycling is effectively too expensive here.
Now the Chinese and Malaysians don’t want this stuff anymore either, so it ends up somewhere...
It is better off in an efficient incineration plant that produces electricity or district heating, or both.

Regarding the whole discussion: the problem with the 'yellow bag' waste is ultimately not the mass but the volume. We also have one of those three-compartment waste sorting bins under the sink. The container for the yellow bin is twice as large as the other two.
I just take that one out, put it on the floor, and step on it. This compresses the material perfectly and easily fits three times as much. You can also notice that in the bin.
Ideally, a self-compacting container would be best. If that worked reasonably well, it could hold several times the mass.

But @Kampfkarnickel, overall that’s just a crazy idea, it’s not going to work.
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guckuck2
3 Feb 2020 11:12
Get rid of the organic waste bin, then you have enough space in the waste system for two equally sized bins. That’s what we did as well, and it’s much more practical. If you try to include all types of waste, you end up with only tiny bins.
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Müllerin
3 Feb 2020 16:53
and compressing is not allowed because the cutting machines will no longer function properly...
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ypg
3 Feb 2020 20:12
apokolok schrieb:

Well, you can put your moralizing back in your yellow bag...

Sure. It has always been like this: if there are rules that limit you, they are stupid. If there are rules that benefit you, everyone has to follow them.
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apokolok
3 Feb 2020 22:33
Müllerin schrieb:

and compressing is not allowed because the separation machines can no longer work properly then...
Well, I might be close to a machine, but I’m definitely not an industrial press.
ypg schrieb:

Sure. It’s always been like this: if there are rules that limit you, they’re considered annoying. If there are rules that benefit you, everyone has to follow them.
You are allowed to throw anything into the residual waste.
It costs a lot of money, so people usually don’t do it.
That doesn’t make it morally wrong, though.
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Müllerin
3 Feb 2020 23:02
apokolok schrieb:

You can throw whatever you want into general waste.

No.
Section 14 of the Circular Economy Act (KrWG):

(1) For the purpose of proper, harmless, and high-quality recycling, paper, metal, plastic, and glass waste must be collected separately by January 1, 2015 at the latest, as far as this is technically feasible and economically reasonable.

So, if you live in an area with a "yellow bin" system for recycling, those materials must go there and are not allowed to be disposed of in the general waste bin.