ᐅ Semi-detached house with rather small children's bedrooms

Created on: 13 Mar 2018 12:41
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MichaeI
Hello everyone,

We have a plot where we are allowed to build a semi-detached house. The exterior dimensions can be a maximum of 7 m x 10 m (23 ft x 33 ft), with 2 full floors.

We have visited several carpentry companies (we want to build with solid wood) to get quotes. Each one designed a slightly different plan, but in all of them the children's rooms are quite small (between 11 and 12 square meters (118 to 129 square feet)).

Our requirements were:
- Ground floor with living/dining area, kitchen (preferably also separated), bathroom with shower, pantry
- Upper floor with one bedroom, 2 children's rooms, and a bathroom with shower + bathtub.

A basement is also planned, as the floor plan is already quite small. It will house a hobby room and a boiler room.

My question now:
Is it not possible to get larger children’s rooms with these exterior dimensions? Or has anyone built something similar with a completely different floor plan?

If more space really isn’t possible, is 11 square meters (118 square feet) enough for one child?
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ypg
31 Mar 2018 22:08
kaho674 schrieb:
Do you mean you can build over the 3m (10 feet) setback from the property boundary above? Or how exactly?

Ask yourself whether this would be allowed on the ground floor.

However, we had a 3.5 meter (11.5 feet) distance to the boundary.

Still, the fact remains that an architect generally has more knowledge and can implement designs better than a planner or us here in the forum.
Just drive to a residential area and take a look at terraced or semi-detached houses—are they all just plain rectangular boxes, or do they have features like gables, balconies, projections, recesses, cantilevers, or other elements? Around here, I know them to be charmingly varied.

But putting that aside: the internet is full of layouts around 7 x 10 meters (23 x 33 feet) or similar, often with a basement. There’s no need to get discouraged here.
And: you can always swap the WC and the cloakroom. Everything is possible.
kaho6741 Apr 2018 09:39
ypg schrieb:
Ask yourself whether it would be allowed on the ground floor.

Well, it isn’t. That’s why I was confused.
ypg schrieb:

Still, the fact remains that an architect generally has more knowledge and can implement things better than a planner or us here in the forum.

Let’s hope so. But the original poster already consulted an architect, right? In my opinion, the proposal is just as bad as the first two. There aren’t any gables or anything, and if you ask me, it’s far from charming.
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ypg
1 Apr 2018 09:51
Was he at the architect or planner of the building contractor?
I read "carpenters" at the very top... but rather bored planners?
kaho6741 Apr 2018 11:13
ypg schrieb:
Was he at the architect or the planner from the building company?
I read “carpenters” at the top... but maybe just bored planners?
MichaeI schrieb:
Hello,
we visited the architect today.
I have attached his proposals....

I thought when he says architect, he actually means that?
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MichaeI
4 Apr 2018 10:45
So, we have already met with the architect... I have now revised the floor plan.

Here is another attempt.
The fireplace would be integrated into the walk-in closet on the upper floor.

What do you think?

Open living area with kitchenette, dining table, sofa, TV; spiral staircase; bathroom and two rooms on the left.


Floor plan of an apartment with stairwell, hallway, two bedrooms, and bathroom.
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MichaeI
4 Apr 2018 10:51
The shower on the ground floor measures 90 x 90cm (35 x 35 inches), and two built-in shelves would fit in the adjacent storage room.
The built-in wardrobe next to it is 2.50 x 0.7m (8.2 x 2.3 feet), which should be enough for everyday clothing and shoes.
The passageway to the kitchen would then be 1.10m (3.6 feet) wide, and the distance from the countertop to the wall would be 1.20m (3.9 feet).
The hallway would have a width of 1.60m (5.2 feet).

On the upper floor, all the built-in wardrobes are about 2m (6.6 feet) long, and the shower is 1.10m (3.6 feet) wide. In one of the built-in wardrobes in the children’s room, the chimney would run through.
The corridor upstairs is 1.40m (4.6 feet) wide.
The children’s rooms are furnished with 140cm (55 inches) beds.

I hope this is all clear.