ᐅ Semi-detached house with rather small children's bedrooms

Created on: 13 Mar 2018 12:41
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MichaeI
Hello everyone,

We have a plot where we are allowed to build a semi-detached house. The exterior dimensions can be a maximum of 7 m x 10 m (23 ft x 33 ft), with 2 full floors.

We have visited several carpentry companies (we want to build with solid wood) to get quotes. Each one designed a slightly different plan, but in all of them the children's rooms are quite small (between 11 and 12 square meters (118 to 129 square feet)).

Our requirements were:
- Ground floor with living/dining area, kitchen (preferably also separated), bathroom with shower, pantry
- Upper floor with one bedroom, 2 children's rooms, and a bathroom with shower + bathtub.

A basement is also planned, as the floor plan is already quite small. It will house a hobby room and a boiler room.

My question now:
Is it not possible to get larger children’s rooms with these exterior dimensions? Or has anyone built something similar with a completely different floor plan?

If more space really isn’t possible, is 11 square meters (118 square feet) enough for one child?
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MichaeI
29 Mar 2018 21:43
Yes, as mentioned, there will be no utility room like that, since you can then look from the kitchen into the garden. The room divider was originally intended for storing wood, but we wouldn’t do it that way either. However, the fireplace must remain, as we have our own forest and can always heat affordably.
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ypg
30 Mar 2018 00:37
The room divider becomes annoying and bothersome later on. Wood can also be stored outside, then you just bring it in for the evening. Otherwise, good. Open the intermediate staircase by 2 meters (6.5 feet), that will create a more open feeling [emoji2]
kaho67430 Mar 2018 06:40
Sorry, I’m not really impressed with the floor plan.

First, the downstairs toilet has no window. If anyone can do without one, it would probably be the cloakroom. And where is the shower supposed to be now?
The goal was to make the children’s rooms bigger. So, are they? No! On the contrary, now there’s a chimney running through them.
The children’s rooms were supposed to have top priority upstairs and ideally get light from two sides. That’s not the case either. Instead, the bathroom is now on the chimney side—what’s going on there?
On the west side, the upstairs rooms have no windows at all. How can that be unused space? It’s not a terraced middle house!
Since you want to open up the pantry, there is once again no storage or pantry space left.
The hallway on the ground floor feels cramped—but it’s supposed to be opened up.
The kitchen has no window either—it has to rely on light from the living room. That’s poor design.
The pantry also has to manage without a window—is the architect a cave dweller?
The entire chimney situation has already been criticized.

I would be very disappointed.
kaho67431 Mar 2018 07:28
About the fireplace – I think there are some really nice small ones available. For example, this one is only 40x40cm (16x16 inches). With the wood rack, probably 60-80cm (24-31 inches) wide.

Modernes Wohnzimmer mit Kaminfeuer, schwarzer Ledersessel, Hocker und Glas-Tisch mit Wein


In my opinion, placing it only makes sense on an exterior wall:

Grundriss eines offenen Wohn- und Essbereichs mit Küche, Esstisch, Sofa und Treppe.

Grundriss einer Wohnung: mehrere Räume, Türen, Treppen, Küche und Bad.


Has it already been decided which roof will be installed on top?
kaho67431 Mar 2018 09:54
Focus: Ground Floor North/South Open Plan


Floor plan of an apartment with rooms: K1, K2, bedroom, bathroom, hallway; dimensions visible

Floor plan of an apartment: open living/dining area with dining table, wardrobe, storage room, and shower.


Too quirky?
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Spunk
31 Mar 2018 12:05
I would skip the storage closet. I once saw a corner kitchen cabinet with a sliding door, about 80cm x 120cm (31.5 inches x 47 inches) and floor-to-ceiling height, allowing for crates of bottles to fit underneath. A real space saver.

As an alternative floor plan:

Dachgeschoss Grundrissplan mit Schlafzimmer, Kinderräumen, Galerie, Ankleide und Bad


2D-Grundriss Erdgeschoss mit Küche, Essbereich, Wohnzimmer, Diele, WC und HWR