ᐅ Roller shutter switch / astro function – Jung / Rademacher-Busch-Jaeger / Gira
Created on: 13 May 2017 14:38
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Kaspatoo
Hello,
I want to install a central timer control using an astro switch for our roller shutter system. For this question, it probably doesn’t matter whether each shutter has its own timer or if we use just one central unit (the circuit with relays etc. is already set up by the electrician).
What I want and what the switch should be able to do:
- Astro function, meaning enter the postal code and the switch calculates sunrise and sunset times for all 365 days of the year. At those times, the switch should send the open and close signals.
- Separate offset settings for opening and closing (for example, open one hour earlier than the astro time in the morning and close 30 minutes later than the astro time in the evening)
- As large an offset as possible (2 hours sounds reasonable)
- A lockout time would be nice to have (lockout means: “even if the sun sets at 10:30 p.m., I go to bed at 10 p.m. and the shutter should be closed latest by then,” as well as “open no earlier than 8 a.m. and don’t wake me up even if the sun rises at 6 a.m.”)
- Automatic daylight saving time adjustment
Since in my case the switch will be installed in the basement control cabinet, design is not important to me. Also, features like brightness sensors don’t matter since I only want to work with the calculated sun positions based on postal code.
I found several switches and I am listing the brand names (manufacturers) I know here:
- Rademacher Troll Comfort 5625 (Amazon: "Rademacher Troll Comfort including frame, ultra white, 36500012")
- $85.90
- includes all components (base unit + control module)
- Offset +/- 2 hours?
- adjustable separately?
- currently leaning towards this switch
- Jung CD5232T3WW Cover with timer function Universal
- $91.48
- plus matching insert for electrical connection = $131.86
- Gira 130803 Blind control module 2 System 55, pure white
- $85.90
- plus matching insert for electrical connection = $129.91
- Busch-Jaeger 6455 Comfort timer control element 6455-101
- $86.60
- plus matching insert for electrical connection = $130.81
- Jarolift THOR roller shutter timer Engineered by RADEMACHER
- $39.99
- includes “power supply”
- only +/- 30 minutes offset
Maybe you can share your opinions and experiences about the manufacturers in general or perhaps specifically with one of these products. Have I missed any other very good manufacturer?
Thank you very much.
I want to install a central timer control using an astro switch for our roller shutter system. For this question, it probably doesn’t matter whether each shutter has its own timer or if we use just one central unit (the circuit with relays etc. is already set up by the electrician).
What I want and what the switch should be able to do:
- Astro function, meaning enter the postal code and the switch calculates sunrise and sunset times for all 365 days of the year. At those times, the switch should send the open and close signals.
- Separate offset settings for opening and closing (for example, open one hour earlier than the astro time in the morning and close 30 minutes later than the astro time in the evening)
- As large an offset as possible (2 hours sounds reasonable)
- A lockout time would be nice to have (lockout means: “even if the sun sets at 10:30 p.m., I go to bed at 10 p.m. and the shutter should be closed latest by then,” as well as “open no earlier than 8 a.m. and don’t wake me up even if the sun rises at 6 a.m.”)
- Automatic daylight saving time adjustment
Since in my case the switch will be installed in the basement control cabinet, design is not important to me. Also, features like brightness sensors don’t matter since I only want to work with the calculated sun positions based on postal code.
I found several switches and I am listing the brand names (manufacturers) I know here:
- Rademacher Troll Comfort 5625 (Amazon: "Rademacher Troll Comfort including frame, ultra white, 36500012")
- $85.90
- includes all components (base unit + control module)
- Offset +/- 2 hours?
- adjustable separately?
- currently leaning towards this switch
- Jung CD5232T3WW Cover with timer function Universal
- $91.48
- plus matching insert for electrical connection = $131.86
- Gira 130803 Blind control module 2 System 55, pure white
- $85.90
- plus matching insert for electrical connection = $129.91
- Busch-Jaeger 6455 Comfort timer control element 6455-101
- $86.60
- plus matching insert for electrical connection = $130.81
- Jarolift THOR roller shutter timer Engineered by RADEMACHER
- $39.99
- includes “power supply”
- only +/- 30 minutes offset
Maybe you can share your opinions and experiences about the manufacturers in general or perhaps specifically with one of these products. Have I missed any other very good manufacturer?
Thank you very much.
We have Jarolift Thor, and it meets almost all of your requirements.
For us, they are set using an astro function based on postal code, plus an additional setting that the shutters close by 10 PM (22:00), even if it gets dark later. In the morning, they generally open at 7 AM, regardless of whether it gets light earlier or later.
Regarding the offset, there is an option to set a kind of “random” variation of plus or minus 30 minutes, designed so potential burglars can’t observe a fixed schedule. This makes it appear as if the shutters open and close at different times each day. We don’t use this feature, but it is easy to configure.
The time change adjustment works automatically without any issues (for us, so far 3 times since we installed them).
For us, they are set using an astro function based on postal code, plus an additional setting that the shutters close by 10 PM (22:00), even if it gets dark later. In the morning, they generally open at 7 AM, regardless of whether it gets light earlier or later.
Regarding the offset, there is an option to set a kind of “random” variation of plus or minus 30 minutes, designed so potential burglars can’t observe a fixed schedule. This makes it appear as if the shutters open and close at different times each day. We don’t use this feature, but it is easy to configure.
The time change adjustment works automatically without any issues (for us, so far 3 times since we installed them).
Thanks, Jo.
I have now ordered the Troll Comfort from Rademacher and have already tested it. The menu navigation is good, and everything works as expected. The offset, as mentioned, is about +/- 60 minutes.
I have also ordered the Jarolift Thor for my parents-in-law.
The Jarolift Thor only supports Astro mode in the evening, not in the morning, where you can only set a fixed time. The offset for Astro is +/- 30 minutes. The random function varies by +/- 30 minutes (offset is something different). According to the manual, you can set the raise and lower times either for Monday to Sunday or for each weekday individually, but not Monday to Friday and Saturday plus Sunday separately.
The Troll Comfort, on the other hand, can do all three options, including Saturday and Sunday separately (although setting each day individually achieves the same result with a bit more effort). The Troll Comfort also offers an Astro function for the morning.
The menus are similar on both. In my opinion, the Jarolift Thor, at €40 instead of €85, is the cheaper, feature-reduced version of the Troll Comfort, while I find the Troll's design slightly more high-end. Structurally, both devices are almost identical.
Since I only needed one, I chose the more expensive Troll. If I had to equip every blind, I would have chosen the Jarolift for cost reasons.
Thanks for your help.
I have now ordered the Troll Comfort from Rademacher and have already tested it. The menu navigation is good, and everything works as expected. The offset, as mentioned, is about +/- 60 minutes.
I have also ordered the Jarolift Thor for my parents-in-law.
The Jarolift Thor only supports Astro mode in the evening, not in the morning, where you can only set a fixed time. The offset for Astro is +/- 30 minutes. The random function varies by +/- 30 minutes (offset is something different). According to the manual, you can set the raise and lower times either for Monday to Sunday or for each weekday individually, but not Monday to Friday and Saturday plus Sunday separately.
The Troll Comfort, on the other hand, can do all three options, including Saturday and Sunday separately (although setting each day individually achieves the same result with a bit more effort). The Troll Comfort also offers an Astro function for the morning.
The menus are similar on both. In my opinion, the Jarolift Thor, at €40 instead of €85, is the cheaper, feature-reduced version of the Troll Comfort, while I find the Troll's design slightly more high-end. Structurally, both devices are almost identical.
Since I only needed one, I chose the more expensive Troll. If I had to equip every blind, I would have chosen the Jarolift for cost reasons.
Thanks for your help.
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