We received a quote from a local painting and flooring company.
The prices for the flooring seemed reasonable to us, but the costs for the painting work were somewhat surprising.
Of course, we will get at least one more quote, but I would like to hear your opinion first (figures slightly rounded):
1. Sanding and priming ceilings and wall surfaces, approx. 665 sqm (7,160 sq ft) – €2.55 – €1,700
2. Full-surface filling of ceilings and walls 1x, then sanding and applying deep primer after drying, approx. 550 sqm (5,920 sq ft) – €9 – €4,922
3. Applying smooth fleece wallpaper, approx. 550 sqm (5,920 sq ft) – €7 – €3,900
4. Sealing joints with acrylic, approx. 320 m (1,050 ft) – €1.15 – €370
5. Painting ceilings and walls with dispersion paint NAK2, 2 coats, approx. 665 sqm (7,160 sq ft) – €5 – €3,300
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Total €14,200 net
Hourly rate for additional work: €42
The invoice will be based on actual measurements (which is logical) or according to hourly and material records. (Materials are clear, but hours for the initial quote should be clearly based on measurements – otherwise, it might drag on 2–3 days longer than expected..?)
Location is OWL – is this within a reasonable range?
The prices for the flooring seemed reasonable to us, but the costs for the painting work were somewhat surprising.
Of course, we will get at least one more quote, but I would like to hear your opinion first (figures slightly rounded):
1. Sanding and priming ceilings and wall surfaces, approx. 665 sqm (7,160 sq ft) – €2.55 – €1,700
2. Full-surface filling of ceilings and walls 1x, then sanding and applying deep primer after drying, approx. 550 sqm (5,920 sq ft) – €9 – €4,922
3. Applying smooth fleece wallpaper, approx. 550 sqm (5,920 sq ft) – €7 – €3,900
4. Sealing joints with acrylic, approx. 320 m (1,050 ft) – €1.15 – €370
5. Painting ceilings and walls with dispersion paint NAK2, 2 coats, approx. 665 sqm (7,160 sq ft) – €5 – €3,300
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Total €14,200 net
Hourly rate for additional work: €42
The invoice will be based on actual measurements (which is logical) or according to hourly and material records. (Materials are clear, but hours for the initial quote should be clearly based on measurements – otherwise, it might drag on 2–3 days longer than expected..?)
Location is OWL – is this within a reasonable range?
readytorumble is absolutely right.
Plastering is either something you do effortlessly or it drives you crazy. Sanding ceilings with a drywall sander (“giraffe”) is really hard on the arms, and to get a smooth finish you must avoid applying the sander at an angle or lifting it too often. Regarding paint: I recommend trying to get professional-grade paint, which is now possible to order online. For example, the Sto range is no more expensive than DIY store products but offers ten times better coverage. Maleco is similar. Setta is also very high quality. Caparol too.
But: 108 m² (1163 sq ft) house. Plaster ceilings and sand them, repair defects on walls. Plaster wet room walls. Cover those with fiberglass mesh. Apply primer and paint to the rest. Seal acrylic joints. Install ceiling cornices, lay 60 m² (646 sq ft) of vinyl flooring, glue 60 m (197 ft) of baseboards, after leveling compound, priming and applying brick dust finish. Three people. Two skilled workers, one assistant, myself, 150 hours total. 50 hours each. This is not a quick job. And we did nothing particularly time-consuming. Karsten
Plastering is either something you do effortlessly or it drives you crazy. Sanding ceilings with a drywall sander (“giraffe”) is really hard on the arms, and to get a smooth finish you must avoid applying the sander at an angle or lifting it too often. Regarding paint: I recommend trying to get professional-grade paint, which is now possible to order online. For example, the Sto range is no more expensive than DIY store products but offers ten times better coverage. Maleco is similar. Setta is also very high quality. Caparol too.
But: 108 m² (1163 sq ft) house. Plaster ceilings and sand them, repair defects on walls. Plaster wet room walls. Cover those with fiberglass mesh. Apply primer and paint to the rest. Seal acrylic joints. Install ceiling cornices, lay 60 m² (646 sq ft) of vinyl flooring, glue 60 m (197 ft) of baseboards, after leveling compound, priming and applying brick dust finish. Three people. Two skilled workers, one assistant, myself, 150 hours total. 50 hours each. This is not a quick job. And we did nothing particularly time-consuming. Karsten
Great, first of all, thanks for all the responses.
As you can see in my current profile picture, there isn’t a house yet. This was just an inquiry so we could calculate the loan. We were aware it would be a bit on the expensive side, as the company is known for that.
So, it’s possible they simply listed all potential items, like the filling/spackling.
If the mason does his job properly, the surface should already be reasonably smooth, right?
We haven’t asked any questions about the offer so far—so we have no idea why they want to apply a primer coat twice.
We are still considering whether we actually want the fleece.
Applying two coats of paint also seemed unnecessary at first—but we’re not painters, and all the walls we have painted so far already had several layers of paint on them.
Filling/spackling ourselves? No thanks. At most, we might do the painting ourselves, and only as a last resort. We’re not skilled tradespeople, and we’re happy to pay a fair price for the necessary work—provided we can judge what is reasonable and what is an exaggeration.
So, thanks @Caidori for the price comparison.
As you can see in my current profile picture, there isn’t a house yet. This was just an inquiry so we could calculate the loan. We were aware it would be a bit on the expensive side, as the company is known for that.
So, it’s possible they simply listed all potential items, like the filling/spackling.
If the mason does his job properly, the surface should already be reasonably smooth, right?
We haven’t asked any questions about the offer so far—so we have no idea why they want to apply a primer coat twice.
We are still considering whether we actually want the fleece.
Applying two coats of paint also seemed unnecessary at first—but we’re not painters, and all the walls we have painted so far already had several layers of paint on them.
Filling/spackling ourselves? No thanks. At most, we might do the painting ourselves, and only as a last resort. We’re not skilled tradespeople, and we’re happy to pay a fair price for the necessary work—provided we can judge what is reasonable and what is an exaggeration.
So, thanks @Caidori for the price comparison.
R
readytorumble28 Oct 2017 08:03Have you informed the painting company about the construction method of your house?
The painter only needs to fill and sand drywall surfaces. All walls built with solid masonry will be plastered. And if the plastering is done properly, there is no need for additional filling. Of course, plastering is not exactly cheap either.
Then you need to consider whether you want all walls and ceilings to be completely smooth. If you want some texture in certain areas, the plasterer can apply that directly. After that, only priming and painting are necessary.
The painter only needs to fill and sand drywall surfaces. All walls built with solid masonry will be plastered. And if the plastering is done properly, there is no need for additional filling. Of course, plastering is not exactly cheap either.
Then you need to consider whether you want all walls and ceilings to be completely smooth. If you want some texture in certain areas, the plasterer can apply that directly. After that, only priming and painting are necessary.
This is a matter of division of labor. We were also advised to have the painter do the sanding (target Q3). Although the plasterer can do it as well, usually the painter will find faults and fix them afterwards. Therefore, the recommendation is to have the plasterer complete work to Q2 and assign the sanding to the painter for Q3. That way, there won’t be any disputes.
For example, filling also applies to delicate ceilings and is therefore not exclusive to drywall work.
For example, filling also applies to delicate ceilings and is therefore not exclusive to drywall work.
R
readytorumble28 Oct 2017 14:34That's correct, thank you for the addition. We had our cast-in-place concrete ceiling plastered.
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