We received a quote from a local painting and flooring company.
The prices for the flooring seemed reasonable to us, but the costs for the painting work were somewhat surprising.
Of course, we will get at least one more quote, but I would like to hear your opinion first (figures slightly rounded):
1. Sanding and priming ceilings and wall surfaces, approx. 665 sqm (7,160 sq ft) – €2.55 – €1,700
2. Full-surface filling of ceilings and walls 1x, then sanding and applying deep primer after drying, approx. 550 sqm (5,920 sq ft) – €9 – €4,922
3. Applying smooth fleece wallpaper, approx. 550 sqm (5,920 sq ft) – €7 – €3,900
4. Sealing joints with acrylic, approx. 320 m (1,050 ft) – €1.15 – €370
5. Painting ceilings and walls with dispersion paint NAK2, 2 coats, approx. 665 sqm (7,160 sq ft) – €5 – €3,300
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Total €14,200 net
Hourly rate for additional work: €42
The invoice will be based on actual measurements (which is logical) or according to hourly and material records. (Materials are clear, but hours for the initial quote should be clearly based on measurements – otherwise, it might drag on 2–3 days longer than expected..?)
Location is OWL – is this within a reasonable range?
The prices for the flooring seemed reasonable to us, but the costs for the painting work were somewhat surprising.
Of course, we will get at least one more quote, but I would like to hear your opinion first (figures slightly rounded):
1. Sanding and priming ceilings and wall surfaces, approx. 665 sqm (7,160 sq ft) – €2.55 – €1,700
2. Full-surface filling of ceilings and walls 1x, then sanding and applying deep primer after drying, approx. 550 sqm (5,920 sq ft) – €9 – €4,922
3. Applying smooth fleece wallpaper, approx. 550 sqm (5,920 sq ft) – €7 – €3,900
4. Sealing joints with acrylic, approx. 320 m (1,050 ft) – €1.15 – €370
5. Painting ceilings and walls with dispersion paint NAK2, 2 coats, approx. 665 sqm (7,160 sq ft) – €5 – €3,300
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Total €14,200 net
Hourly rate for additional work: €42
The invoice will be based on actual measurements (which is logical) or according to hourly and material records. (Materials are clear, but hours for the initial quote should be clearly based on measurements – otherwise, it might drag on 2–3 days longer than expected..?)
Location is OWL – is this within a reasonable range?
Hello,
yes, we were also shocked when we received the painter’s quote:/ we live in NRW:
Priming: 5,-; painter’s fleece: 9,-; fiberglass: 13,-; white painting: 5,-; acrylic joints: 1.90 ... net prices – this is the average from 2 quotes, another one is coming next week.
We’re still completely undecided about what to do now. The stairwell needs to be done because we can’t do it ourselves; for the rest, we are considering doing it ourselves.
We never expected wallpapering/painting to be more expensive than laying tiles...
yes, we were also shocked when we received the painter’s quote:/ we live in NRW:
Priming: 5,-; painter’s fleece: 9,-; fiberglass: 13,-; white painting: 5,-; acrylic joints: 1.90 ... net prices – this is the average from 2 quotes, another one is coming next week.
We’re still completely undecided about what to do now. The stairwell needs to be done because we can’t do it ourselves; for the rest, we are considering doing it ourselves.
We never expected wallpapering/painting to be more expensive than laying tiles...
Point 2 sounds like a step for Q4-level finishes.
I’m just wondering why the painter wants to prime twice (points 1 and 2)?
Normally, you can paint directly on Q4 surfaces without applying fleece. Conversely, fleece can be applied to Q3 surfaces (thicker fleece also on Q2 surfaces) to reduce surface irregularities.
I’m just wondering why the painter wants to prime twice (points 1 and 2)?
Normally, you can paint directly on Q4 surfaces without applying fleece. Conversely, fleece can be applied to Q3 surfaces (thicker fleece also on Q2 surfaces) to reduce surface irregularities.
The cost estimates are fine initially.
It’s unclear why he is inflating them so much.
Has he already seen the interior plaster and the quality of the ceilings?
Is it Q2? Moving up to Q3 would actually be cheaper. Or if it’s very uneven and porous, then it would be better to fully skim coat, because partial work in between won’t help.
I also don’t understand the need for two coats of primer.
Fiberglass mesh is not necessary. It’s trendy now but drives up costs. He could just apply two coats of Sto basic matte paint for a clean finish.
It also depends on what level of quality you expect.
If the interior walls are reasonably well plastered, he could just fill any small voids, then prime with StoSil using a wiping technique, and apply wall paint. That would be even cheaper. The surface would look slightly sandy, though.
You need to discuss based on his cost estimates. I think you could negotiate this down to around 10 with lower quality expectations. Karsten
It’s unclear why he is inflating them so much.
Has he already seen the interior plaster and the quality of the ceilings?
Is it Q2? Moving up to Q3 would actually be cheaper. Or if it’s very uneven and porous, then it would be better to fully skim coat, because partial work in between won’t help.
I also don’t understand the need for two coats of primer.
Fiberglass mesh is not necessary. It’s trendy now but drives up costs. He could just apply two coats of Sto basic matte paint for a clean finish.
It also depends on what level of quality you expect.
If the interior walls are reasonably well plastered, he could just fill any small voids, then prime with StoSil using a wiping technique, and apply wall paint. That would be even cheaper. The surface would look slightly sandy, though.
You need to discuss based on his cost estimates. I think you could negotiate this down to around 10 with lower quality expectations. Karsten
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readytorumble27 Oct 2017 11:58Think carefully about whether you can do this yourself.
Filling and sanding is a tedious task, and you should either have experience with it or be taught or helped by someone who has done it before. The same obviously applies to wallpapering. I also don’t understand the need for priming twice. One coat of primer is enough, and anyone can do that. Primer is also very inexpensive.
Step 5 (painting) is something you can easily do yourself as well. But do yourself and the final result a favor and buy high-quality paint (for example, Caparol Indeko Plus—about 80 euros for 12.5 liters (3.3 gallons)). Then one coat will be sufficient.
Filling and sanding is a tedious task, and you should either have experience with it or be taught or helped by someone who has done it before. The same obviously applies to wallpapering. I also don’t understand the need for priming twice. One coat of primer is enough, and anyone can do that. Primer is also very inexpensive.
Step 5 (painting) is something you can easily do yourself as well. But do yourself and the final result a favor and buy high-quality paint (for example, Caparol Indeko Plus—about 80 euros for 12.5 liters (3.3 gallons)). Then one coat will be sufficient.
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