Hello forum,
The interior plaster is applied, and the painting work will start soon.
I believe it is a "wallpaper-ready fine plaster," which I think corresponds to quality level Q2, probably gypsum plaster.
To me, it looks very tidy and smooth, so I hardly see much need for filling, except for fixing a few small imperfections.
We don’t have high standards and just want everything to be white. I feel confident enough to prime and paint directly on the plaster myself. I also have the time for it.
My question is what a professional painter would do differently or better—basically, what is the added value of having it done professionally?
For example, I’ve read that painting fleece (paintable wallpaper or fleece) can cover or prevent plaster cracks. Would that be recommended instead of painting directly on the plaster?
In the end, it should simply look white, smooth, even, and neat.
Thanks!
The interior plaster is applied, and the painting work will start soon.
I believe it is a "wallpaper-ready fine plaster," which I think corresponds to quality level Q2, probably gypsum plaster.
To me, it looks very tidy and smooth, so I hardly see much need for filling, except for fixing a few small imperfections.
We don’t have high standards and just want everything to be white. I feel confident enough to prime and paint directly on the plaster myself. I also have the time for it.
My question is what a professional painter would do differently or better—basically, what is the added value of having it done professionally?
For example, I’ve read that painting fleece (paintable wallpaper or fleece) can cover or prevent plaster cracks. Would that be recommended instead of painting directly on the plaster?
In the end, it should simply look white, smooth, even, and neat.
Thanks!
sco0ter schrieb:
We don’t have high demands and just want everything to be white. [...]
In the end, it should just look white, smooth, even, and neat. Three and a half years of training isn’t wasted on bad apprentices.
Do it yourself in storage rooms, but look at the result with the same patience as you would in the living room. Then the idea of “just” will be clarified.
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Get yourself a work light (about 15€ from Amazon) and shine it at an angle onto the wall. It will reveal all the imperfections.
You need a 0 mm (0 inch) flexible scraper, a general-purpose putty knife, and a mixing cup (a small flexible cup for mixing compounds). With these, you can fill in holes.
You will need a drywall sander with 120-grit sanding discs (abrasive mesh). A new one costs around 120€, less on local classifieds, or about 40€ per day to rent. You also need a proper vacuum cleaner with bags, plus protective gear (dust mask, goggles, hearing protection). This will help you carefully remove splatter and drips from the plaster.
Then you will need a primer (penetrating sealer), such as Tiefengrund LF (available for 9.99€ for 10 liters (2.6 gallons) at Toom). Apply it either with a wide brush, a garden sprayer (like a Gloria weed sprayer), or a paint spray system (for example from Bosch).
For covering surfaces, use a drop cloth over plastic sheeting on the floor, and painter’s tape with attached plastic sheeting (masking tape) for windows. These are available from brands like Tesa or at discount stores.
Then you can either spray or roll on the paint. Add 2–3 teaspoons of yellow paint per bucket to warm up the color slightly, making it less cold but still white.
For the transition between drywall on the ceiling and wall, use acrylic sealant with a suitable caulking gun.
For about 200 m² (2150 sq ft) of living space, I spent around five weekends doing the spraying myself, starting from the shell stage, so there was very little needing to be masked off.
The painter wanted 10,000€, but I think I spent about 1,000€, including a lot of equipment purchases.
You need a 0 mm (0 inch) flexible scraper, a general-purpose putty knife, and a mixing cup (a small flexible cup for mixing compounds). With these, you can fill in holes.
You will need a drywall sander with 120-grit sanding discs (abrasive mesh). A new one costs around 120€, less on local classifieds, or about 40€ per day to rent. You also need a proper vacuum cleaner with bags, plus protective gear (dust mask, goggles, hearing protection). This will help you carefully remove splatter and drips from the plaster.
Then you will need a primer (penetrating sealer), such as Tiefengrund LF (available for 9.99€ for 10 liters (2.6 gallons) at Toom). Apply it either with a wide brush, a garden sprayer (like a Gloria weed sprayer), or a paint spray system (for example from Bosch).
For covering surfaces, use a drop cloth over plastic sheeting on the floor, and painter’s tape with attached plastic sheeting (masking tape) for windows. These are available from brands like Tesa or at discount stores.
Then you can either spray or roll on the paint. Add 2–3 teaspoons of yellow paint per bucket to warm up the color slightly, making it less cold but still white.
For the transition between drywall on the ceiling and wall, use acrylic sealant with a suitable caulking gun.
For about 200 m² (2150 sq ft) of living space, I spent around five weekends doing the spraying myself, starting from the shell stage, so there was very little needing to be masked off.
The painter wanted 10,000€, but I think I spent about 1,000€, including a lot of equipment purchases.
fragg schrieb:
Get yourself a construction floodlight (15€ from Amazon) and shine it at an angle onto the wall. You’ll be horrified by what you see. So you’re not satisfied with your work and would have preferred to pay 9000 EUR for a better result?
Our ceilings are slightly uneven—not holes or damage, but just not perfectly flat. You can’t really fix something like that with filler, right? I think it only makes it worse...
sco0ter schrieb:
So you’re not happy with your work and would have preferred to pay 9000 EUR for a better result?
Our ceilings are slightly uneven. Not holes or damage, just not perfectly flat. You can’t really fix that with filler, right? I think it only makes it worse...let’s put it this way: if a painter had done this, I wouldn’t pay them for it in actual use, no one walks around with work lights, and there are cupboards in front of the long walls that catch light at a low angle.
and it’s not “bad,” just not flawless baby-bottom smooth
Everyone has to decide for themselves what something like this is worth to them.
The painters were two people and finished everything except the stairwell ceiling in four days. A scaffold is still needed for that.
We neither had the time nor the motivation for the painting work — and especially not for filling the ceilings and sanding everything down. It also wouldn’t have turned out as streak-free.
So yes, it was worth it to US.
The painters were two people and finished everything except the stairwell ceiling in four days. A scaffold is still needed for that.
We neither had the time nor the motivation for the painting work — and especially not for filling the ceilings and sanding everything down. It also wouldn’t have turned out as streak-free.
So yes, it was worth it to US.
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