ᐅ Multi-generational house with an underground garage for three families

Created on: 11 Mar 2019 09:55
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Muc1985
Hello everyone,

After reading quietly for a while and really appreciating all the ideas shared here, I’d like to bring up a topic and hopefully get some feedback, suggestions, and ideas!

I am 34 years old and originally from Munich, where I was born and raised.

Currently, we (my wife and I, with a child on the way, my sister and her partner, as well as my parents) are discussing whether to completely rebuild on our plot of land (currently occupied by a single-family house / 1000 sqm (0.25 acres) / 20 × 50 m (65 × 164 ft) / no zoning plan). The idea is to build a fairly modern house with two spacious living areas (each with its own terrace overlooking the garden, large living and dining areas, etc., and about 200 sqm (2150 sq ft) of living space), including an underground garage and a basement. A granny flat (or accessory dwelling unit) is also planned to be integrated.

I would like to start a discussion based on these ideas and am looking forward to any input or constructive criticism.

Thank you very much.
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Muc1985
19 Mar 2019 17:48
@11ant

I have thought about it, yes. There is no definitive assessment on this yet.

May I ask you a question? What scope of work would you currently assign to an architect in this case?

Best regards
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ypg
20 Mar 2019 00:02
Let's be honest. You submit a rough preliminary building inquiry just to get an idea of what’s possible before aiming for the stars.
11ant20 Mar 2019 00:32
Muc1985 schrieb:
May I ask you a question? What brief would you currently give to an architect in this case?

We allow ourselves to pose this question to him.

The brief is clear and consists of two parts:
Desire)
Three couples (two of them in childbearing age, if I understood correctly) want to live there; each housing unit should also be suitable for external users afterwards; it should not look like an apartment building.
Reality)
Does this fit on the plot, even though it is not supposed to be social housing in terms of floor area?
Muc1985 schrieb:
There is not yet a real assessment on this.

Even in remote areas like Posemuckel / MV, they have such assessments, and they should be requested. In zoning area 34, such restrictions as I have marked are not uncommon: that a setback line requirement in a local development plan creates a building line (in red), and that the surrounding building depths set the limits for the house depth. The otherwise much-appreciated design by Kerstin simply uses a building depth two and a half times that of the neighboring buildings shown in the plan excerpt. This may be possible—but it would not be unusual if it were not.

Densification—and this is what you are aiming for, if you compare the desired building volume with our grandmother’s small houses on the neighboring plots—is currently a trend, welcomed (but usually considered something requiring regulation, often due to poor early experiences with investors by local residents). In larger cities, it is typically local ordinances from individual district offices that define these frameworks.
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Muc1985
21 Mar 2019 11:49
Hello again @11ant and @ypg.

Thank you very much for your suggestions and explanations.

I have also been considering a possible "building envelope" and will try to clarify that shortly.

Submitting a preliminary building inquiry definitely makes sense soon. However, I believe that as long as the current building regulations, including the permitted floor area ratio and site coverage ratio, are followed, everything should be fine in the initial phase. Our area is purely residential, with a floor area ratio of 1.2 and a site coverage ratio of 0.4.

Best regards
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ypg
21 Mar 2019 13:30
Floor area ratio 0.4... did you mention that initially?
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Muc1985
21 Mar 2019 13:43
Hello ypg,

No, I didn’t address the numbers at the beginning (which was obviously not ideal on my part), as my initial post was mainly about sharing thoughts with only a few facts included.