ᐅ Multi-generational house with an underground garage for three families

Created on: 11 Mar 2019 09:55
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Muc1985
Hello everyone,

After reading quietly for a while and really appreciating all the ideas shared here, I’d like to bring up a topic and hopefully get some feedback, suggestions, and ideas!

I am 34 years old and originally from Munich, where I was born and raised.

Currently, we (my wife and I, with a child on the way, my sister and her partner, as well as my parents) are discussing whether to completely rebuild on our plot of land (currently occupied by a single-family house / 1000 sqm (0.25 acres) / 20 × 50 m (65 × 164 ft) / no zoning plan). The idea is to build a fairly modern house with two spacious living areas (each with its own terrace overlooking the garden, large living and dining areas, etc., and about 200 sqm (2150 sq ft) of living space), including an underground garage and a basement. A granny flat (or accessory dwelling unit) is also planned to be integrated.

I would like to start a discussion based on these ideas and am looking forward to any input or constructive criticism.

Thank you very much.
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ypg
17 Mar 2019 20:49
I also don't think that a distance of 3 meters (10 feet) is sufficient for a three-story building in conservative Bavaria. I would estimate it to be around 4.50 meters (15 feet).

Wasn't it in Bavaria that a neighbor can raise an objection against a building measure?
I wouldn't hold it against that neighbor.
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kbt09
17 Mar 2019 21:07
@ypg .. yes, I also see that as a problem. That’s why I immediately adjusted the plot design in the neighborhood plan.

Site plan of a plot: red roofed building, green garden, brown terraces, driveway.


The red frame is now 20x50 meters (65x164 feet) ... but the actual floor plan length would only be 45 meters (148 feet) if the width is correct.

So it would be sensible to find out the exact measurements of the plot.

Here is the entire plan again
11ant18 Mar 2019 00:10
kbt09 schrieb:
What do you mean by block?

Sorry, I misled you there: I wasn’t referring to the separate apartment, which is upstairs, but to the ground floor on the left side of the plan.
kbt09 schrieb:
And what does [...] mean in practice?

The common “3 m (10 feet)” setback from the boundary isn’t really a fixed minimum; the rule actually goes further: “… or half the height” (= 1/2 h). So, if the building is, for example, 8.30 m (27 feet) tall, then the setback should be 4.15 m (14 feet).
kbt09 schrieb:
What I was mainly interested in was how you actually come to around 2 x 200 and 1 x 80 sqm (sq ft) of floor space.

You have now put a face on that question 😊
kbt09 schrieb:
I also kept thinking about how much space would be needed in an underground garage for 6 cars including access routes, and what kind of driveway that would require.

That would have required almost as much driveway space as the entire upper parking area, and it would have practically meant a fully underground cellar beneath the courtyard.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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kbt09
18 Mar 2019 00:44
.. ah, on the ground floor to the left ... that is shown poorly in the floor plan view .. this is where the cooking area with a boxed-in ceiling hood is located
11ant18 Mar 2019 00:53
kbt09 schrieb:
There is the cooking area with a ceiling-mounted hood

I meant this one:

Floor plan of a kitchen with island, countertops and seating areas

https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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kbt09
18 Mar 2019 00:59
Yes, the cooking area and seating bench below... the floor plan software is not very suitable for good kitchen design.

Modern kitchen with island, stove, sink, white cabinets, and window wall.