ᐅ Suggestions for Improving a Single-Family House Floor Plan – Any Ideas?
Created on: 28 Oct 2018 15:19
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Hello everyone,
After a long search for a suitable plot, we have finally found one. We are buying a turnkey house from the developer, who provided us with three floor plan options. Two of them were immediately dismissed by us, and the third one comes closest to our ideas, but we are still not fully convinced.
We like the layout of the upper floor and would like to keep it as it is.
However, the ground floor is causing us some headaches. Specifically, the area around the living room/dining room/kitchen. The current plan features a U-shaped kitchen, but we would prefer a solution with a kitchen island. For that, we would need more space. In our opinion, there is too much space in the living room to accommodate this. The distance from wall to wall is 4.50 meters (15 feet), which, in our view, makes the distance between the sofa and the TV too large. (Note: Our current living room measures 3.40 x 4.50 meters (11 x 15 feet), meaning the distance between sofa and TV is 3.40 meters (11 feet), which we consider optimal.)
We have therefore considered swapping the living room and kitchen. This would allow the kitchen with an island to fit, but the living room would then be too small because the width there is only 2.80 meters (9 feet), due to the wardrobe recess. We do not see another place for the wardrobe, as the hallway does not offer much space.
We are hoping for suggestions or ideas for improvement.
Here is our list of questions:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: approx. 430 sqm (4,630 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.35
Floor area ratio: -
Building envelope, building line and boundary: -
Edge development: -
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof
Style: -
Orientation: S - SW
Maximum height/limits: -
Further specifications: -
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: 2 full floors
Number and age of occupants: currently 2 (both mid-30s), in future 2 children
Space requirements on ground floor: living room, dining room, kitchen, guest WC, utility room, small office
Space requirements on upper floor: bedroom, walk-in closet, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom
Office usage: family use and home office
Guests per year staying overnight: approx. 3 nights
Open or closed layout: open
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: for 6 people (expandable to 8)
Fireplace: no
Music/speaker wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons for or against certain options: -
House design
Planner: developer’s designer
What do you particularly like? And why?: upper floor layout considered optimal by us
What do you dislike? And why?: ground floor layout (living/dining/kitchen/wardrobe; see problem description above)
Preferred heating system: heat pump
If you had to give up some details or expansions
-could give up: -
-could not give up: walk-in closet; open living/dining/kitchen area; house access from street side
Why is the design as it is now?: design by the planner based on our room needs and overall size
What do you consider its main strengths or weaknesses?: see problem description above
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?:
Does it make sense to swap living room and kitchen (see problem description above)? If yes, where else could the wardrobe be placed without making the hallway too narrow? Is the office size still adequate?
We would appreciate any suggestions or ideas for improvement from you.


After a long search for a suitable plot, we have finally found one. We are buying a turnkey house from the developer, who provided us with three floor plan options. Two of them were immediately dismissed by us, and the third one comes closest to our ideas, but we are still not fully convinced.
We like the layout of the upper floor and would like to keep it as it is.
However, the ground floor is causing us some headaches. Specifically, the area around the living room/dining room/kitchen. The current plan features a U-shaped kitchen, but we would prefer a solution with a kitchen island. For that, we would need more space. In our opinion, there is too much space in the living room to accommodate this. The distance from wall to wall is 4.50 meters (15 feet), which, in our view, makes the distance between the sofa and the TV too large. (Note: Our current living room measures 3.40 x 4.50 meters (11 x 15 feet), meaning the distance between sofa and TV is 3.40 meters (11 feet), which we consider optimal.)
We have therefore considered swapping the living room and kitchen. This would allow the kitchen with an island to fit, but the living room would then be too small because the width there is only 2.80 meters (9 feet), due to the wardrobe recess. We do not see another place for the wardrobe, as the hallway does not offer much space.
We are hoping for suggestions or ideas for improvement.
Here is our list of questions:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: approx. 430 sqm (4,630 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.35
Floor area ratio: -
Building envelope, building line and boundary: -
Edge development: -
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof
Style: -
Orientation: S - SW
Maximum height/limits: -
Further specifications: -
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: 2 full floors
Number and age of occupants: currently 2 (both mid-30s), in future 2 children
Space requirements on ground floor: living room, dining room, kitchen, guest WC, utility room, small office
Space requirements on upper floor: bedroom, walk-in closet, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom
Office usage: family use and home office
Guests per year staying overnight: approx. 3 nights
Open or closed layout: open
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: for 6 people (expandable to 8)
Fireplace: no
Music/speaker wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons for or against certain options: -
House design
Planner: developer’s designer
What do you particularly like? And why?: upper floor layout considered optimal by us
What do you dislike? And why?: ground floor layout (living/dining/kitchen/wardrobe; see problem description above)
Preferred heating system: heat pump
If you had to give up some details or expansions
-could give up: -
-could not give up: walk-in closet; open living/dining/kitchen area; house access from street side
Why is the design as it is now?: design by the planner based on our room needs and overall size
What do you consider its main strengths or weaknesses?: see problem description above
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?:
Does it make sense to swap living room and kitchen (see problem description above)? If yes, where else could the wardrobe be placed without making the hallway too narrow? Is the office size still adequate?
We would appreciate any suggestions or ideas for improvement from you.
kaho674 schrieb:
So showering with four people is very environmentally conscious. But not four showers.
11ant schrieb:
This is the one: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Grundriss-für-11m-x-8-25m-ok.24781/
[recently it was possible to edit a post for longer than 10 minutes – currently not anymore, so here is an edit addition] It’s crazy how old this thread is, and we are just now pouring the basement walls. By the way, the house will be built exactly like this. The second architect’s design fit perfectly right away.
kaho674 schrieb:
Showering with four people is very environmentally conscious.No, because it leads to excessive water use, especially since the children tend to mess around a lot. The duck stays outside!https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
kaho674 schrieb:
I would also try another design where you rotate the house. It bothers me in the upper floor that the bedroom is next to the child's room. That could be avoided this way.Rotating the house is not an option because a photovoltaic system will be installed on the roof, so the planned orientation is optimal.
11ant schrieb:
In such cases, I often suspect: if the rejected designs were also shown—of course with comments explaining why they were not suitable—the other participants could be guided more precisely. But that’s just a general remark about such situations; in this specific thread, things seem to be progressing anyway.One design had a single-story extension to the southeast for the kitchen, which would then have been separated from the living room. The other design had the main entrance under the carport. However, we want the main entrance facing the street.
ypg schrieb:
If budget isn’t an issue, then just add one more meter.Well, that would add quite a few square meters. Budgets do have their limits eventually. Besides, the plot isn’t very large either.
I will draft a new design and post it here. Let’s see if I can manage it today; otherwise, in the next few days.
So, we have now drawn up a new design. Compared to the first draft, we mainly changed the following:
- House is overall 25 cm (10 inches) wider
- Living room and kitchen swapped
- Hallway slightly wider
- Office on the ground floor removed
- Small storage room added on the ground floor
- Office instead of walk-in closet on the upper floor
- Children’s room and bedroom swapped on the upper floor


- House is overall 25 cm (10 inches) wider
- Living room and kitchen swapped
- Hallway slightly wider
- Office on the ground floor removed
- Small storage room added on the ground floor
- Office instead of walk-in closet on the upper floor
- Children’s room and bedroom swapped on the upper floor
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