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Retro_1265 Jan 2021 23:58Hello everyone and happy New Year,
I have a question. I have already installed a suspended ceiling and found and connected all the spotlights. Now I would like to install an outlet or a double outlet directly next to one of the spotlights on the ceiling. Alternatively, I could remove one spotlight and replace it with an outlet. My question is: will the outlet always have power, or only when the ceiling light is turned on?
Thank you all very much.
I have a question. I have already installed a suspended ceiling and found and connected all the spotlights. Now I would like to install an outlet or a double outlet directly next to one of the spotlights on the ceiling. Alternatively, I could remove one spotlight and replace it with an outlet. My question is: will the outlet always have power, or only when the ceiling light is turned on?
Thank you all very much.
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knalltüte6 Jan 2021 06:00If you're already asking like this: better have an electrician do it, otherwise you might end up “unhappy” 😱
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Retro_1266 Jan 2021 08:34Thank you very much, Mr. Superzapp...
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Sparfuchs776 Jan 2021 08:50Retro_126 schrieb:
Thank you very much, Mr. Superzapp...Unfortunately, he is right 🙁 If these basic things are not clear, you should have a professional take care of it.
Regarding your question: if you connect the outlet to the switched live of the spotlight, the outlet will obviously only have power when the light is on.
Solutions that come to mind quickly:
- You could wire the light to be permanently on and use smart bulbs (e.g., Hue). These bulbs can be switched off directly (via suitable switches or an app), so your outlet would always have power.
- Wire the light permanently on and use Shelly devices. These are Wi-Fi relays. One Shelly installed in the outlet could control the relays before the spots. Then you could also use regular spotlights.
- If you have 5-core cables running from the light switch to the ceiling, you can assign one free conductor with 230 V (120 V) and connect the outlet to it.
However, none of these are cheap solutions (except the last one).
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hampshire6 Jan 2021 09:44The advice to avoid this probably comes from the fact that answering the question only requires the first lesson on electrical circuits taught in fifth grade. This suggests that lacking basic knowledge when working with strong power sources can pose risks to your health. This is out of care, not just provocation.
If the ceiling lights are currently installed and controlled by a wired light switch, then an outlet is usually also switched by the same switch. This is the normal case; exceptions are possible (wireless solutions with control "in the fixture" or via a controller, multi-phase cables with an unswitched phase available, wiring through a sub-distribution panel with star-shaped cabling...) but unlikely.
If the ceiling lights are currently installed and controlled by a wired light switch, then an outlet is usually also switched by the same switch. This is the normal case; exceptions are possible (wireless solutions with control "in the fixture" or via a controller, multi-phase cables with an unswitched phase available, wiring through a sub-distribution panel with star-shaped cabling...) but unlikely.
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