ᐅ Building a Privacy Screen for Your Terrace: Hire a Professional or Do It Yourself?
Created on: 25 Jun 2021 08:51
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Pwnage619
Hello,
we have purchased a newly built semi-detached house.
Our neighbors want a solid masonry partition wall made of stone instead of the standard glass divider.
We have two options for the wall.
We both want it to be 4m (13 feet) long, 2m (6.5 feet) high, and built on the property line.
Option 1
Have the builder construct it:
They would build a proper foundation for the wall and build it up (I believe with sandstone—the same type of stones used for the exterior walls of the house), finish it on the outside with the same high-quality render as the house, and place a capping slab on top.
Cost is about 6000 - 8000 € (to be calculated exactly) (price would be split between us).
Option 2
We skip the glass divider and both receive a small credit, maybe 100-200 € (to be confirmed), and then we build the partition wall ourselves using hollow blocks which can be filled with gravel or sand at the end to provide stability.
Cost: no idea but definitely cheaper 🙂
Could the wall in Option 1 settle over time, causing cracks in the masonry? Cracks usually develop inside the house over time, and sometimes even on the outside.
The high-quality render on the wall is also difficult to repair yourself. With Option 2, that should not be an issue since nothing is glued on.
we have purchased a newly built semi-detached house.
Our neighbors want a solid masonry partition wall made of stone instead of the standard glass divider.
We have two options for the wall.
We both want it to be 4m (13 feet) long, 2m (6.5 feet) high, and built on the property line.
Option 1
Have the builder construct it:
They would build a proper foundation for the wall and build it up (I believe with sandstone—the same type of stones used for the exterior walls of the house), finish it on the outside with the same high-quality render as the house, and place a capping slab on top.
Cost is about 6000 - 8000 € (to be calculated exactly) (price would be split between us).
Option 2
We skip the glass divider and both receive a small credit, maybe 100-200 € (to be confirmed), and then we build the partition wall ourselves using hollow blocks which can be filled with gravel or sand at the end to provide stability.
Cost: no idea but definitely cheaper 🙂
Could the wall in Option 1 settle over time, causing cracks in the masonry? Cracks usually develop inside the house over time, and sometimes even on the outside.
The high-quality render on the wall is also difficult to repair yourself. With Option 2, that should not be an issue since nothing is glued on.
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hanghaus200027 Jun 2021 17:21Is the wall still within the building envelope at 4 m (13 feet)? Is it even possible to widen the terrace according to the floor space index?
Wood is not only easier to install but also to dismantle. :p
Wood is not only easier to install but also to dismantle. :p
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Pwnage61927 Jun 2021 18:17Depending on the floor area ratio, there is still enough buffer.
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Pwnage61928 Jun 2021 13:40Which type of blocks would you use for a wall like this? I want to see which design we like.
Are they called formwork blocks, hollow blocks, or something else? Which blocks are best suited for this kind of wall?
For us, the best option would be blocks that can be stacked without concrete and only need to be filled with soil, sand, or gravel… (of course, a foundation must be built first).
Are they called formwork blocks, hollow blocks, or something else? Which blocks are best suited for this kind of wall?
For us, the best option would be blocks that can be stacked without concrete and only need to be filled with soil, sand, or gravel… (of course, a foundation must be built first).
Pwnage619 schrieb:
To make hollow stones inside so that you can simply stack the stones on top of each other and fill them with soil or gravel Pwnage619 schrieb:
Which stones would you use for such a wall? So I can see which design we like.
Are these called shuttering blocks or hollow blocks or something else? Which stones are optimal for this kind of wall?
For us, stones that can be placed without concrete and only need to be filled with soil, sand, or gravel would be best (of course, the foundation must be done first). Hollow blocks or planter blocks. The more massive the wall (surface weight), the better the sound insulation. However, these blocks are usually used for slopes.
These stones are not stable if you simply stack them freestanding — at least not at the height you have in mind. I would never recommend 2 meters (6.5 feet) high with just simple gravel filling. 80 cm (32 inches) is okay. For the planned height, steel rods should be placed in the foundation, then through the blocks, and these filled with concrete. Are you really willing to have your wall flap in a wind of force 8 or crack during a storm and fall onto you or a small child with just a light touch 😳 all to save a few hundred dollars on concrete?!
Manufacturers of masonry bricks often provide structural calculations. For small walls, that is usually sufficient. What you want to build will need to be constructed as a solid structure. If you want to do it exactly right, you won’t be able to avoid structural engineering. Otherwise, it’s better to err on the side of using more material...
Concrete blocks connected to the foundation with reinforcement. The amount of concrete involved is quite a task, but doable. However, this will not result in exposed brickwork – I understood that a plaster surface is desired. In that case, build the wall cheaply and without concern for aesthetics, and make it look good with plaster. Otherwise, you will need masonry that looks appealing on its own (or another type of surface finish – brick slips/cladding, wood, etc.).
Concrete blocks connected to the foundation with reinforcement. The amount of concrete involved is quite a task, but doable. However, this will not result in exposed brickwork – I understood that a plaster surface is desired. In that case, build the wall cheaply and without concern for aesthetics, and make it look good with plaster. Otherwise, you will need masonry that looks appealing on its own (or another type of surface finish – brick slips/cladding, wood, etc.).
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Pwnage61928 Jun 2021 14:30The exterior bricks should also look visually appealing and have an attractive design.
In a nearby new development area (already a few years old), several neighbors did it this way: simply hollow blocks (probably those, but not entirely sure) filled with soil.
They are all still standing perfectly, which is why we considered this solution.
In a nearby new development area (already a few years old), several neighbors did it this way: simply hollow blocks (probably those, but not entirely sure) filled with soil.
They are all still standing perfectly, which is why we considered this solution.
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