ᐅ Entrance platform for front door, concrete

Created on: 17 Apr 2020 18:29
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Patrick-BW
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Patrick-BW
17 Apr 2020 18:29
Hello to all the builders in this forum.

For some time now, I have been following the various posts about building here with great interest.

Now I want to make use of the nice weather to start several outdoor projects at my home.

Currently, my entrance area has an old granite slab with an outdated pattern. I would like to replace it with a concrete platform including a coating (gravel gray). In theory, I imagined pouring a concrete foundation and then covering it with a coating or slabs. However, I have several questions concerning the execution.

Question 1

How deep should a foundation for such a platform be? (I have read about 80cm (31 inches) due to the frost line)

Question 2

Does the foundation need to be filled with gravel or aggregate and reinforced with reinforcing mesh?

Question 3

Should there be a slope of 2 degrees to allow water to drain away toward the front door?

Question 4

How should the edge at the door be finished? There should be a watertight transition between the door and the platform.

(ETICS panels, protective coating, drainage membranes)????

Question 5

Is it absolutely necessary to install a screed reinforcement mesh and a drainage pipe within it?

What do you think? I would be very grateful for your opinions, ideas, and creative suggestions.

Light stone porch as a step in front of the front door with metal mesh; paved path in front.


White front door slightly open; in front a metal mesh cover in light concrete, gravel on the right.


Entrance with beige marble floor tile, metal grate and gravel stone floor beside it.


Concrete slab as entrance step with metal mesh, visible paving stones below.


Construction site photo: concrete foundation in front of a front door, tools lying on it.


Entrance area with light steps, umbrella, planter with grass in front of the door.


Modern terrace in front of a house: gray large-format paving slabs, chair, lantern, and glass door.
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Patrick-BW
17 Apr 2020 18:52
The last three pictures are sample suggestions of how it could approximately look.
manohara18 Apr 2020 09:00
Taste … and what it’s like …

Personally, I think concrete has many practical qualities, but compared to a natural stone, it falls short.

Describing the "pattern" of a stone as "old-fashioned" seems quite daring to me. Such a stone and its pattern are often over a million years old … long before there were fashions that could be "in" or "out."

Personally, I would prefer stone over concrete.
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hampshire
18 Apr 2020 10:48
Patrick-BW schrieb:

How deep should the foundation for such a platform be? (I’ve read about 80cm (31 inches) due to the frost line)

You don’t need such a deep foundation. Practically, you can simply cast it shallow; it will stay in place due to its own weight, and since it doesn’t have to resist water pressure or hold back a slope, nothing will happen.
Patrick-BW schrieb:

Does the foundation need to be filled with gravel/screenings and reinforced with steel mesh?

No, that would be overkill. You’re just building a platform where people occasionally walk. Properly placed concrete is sufficient. The key here is uniform curing.
Patrick-BW schrieb:

Should the slope be 2 degrees to allow water to drain away towards the front door?

Away from the front door.
Patrick-BW schrieb:

How should the edge to the door be finished? There should be a watertight transition from the door to the platform.

Watertight why? Leave a small gap, use a drainage membrane, and extend the treated surface all the way to the edge.
Patrick-BW schrieb:

Is it absolutely necessary to install a screed grid and a drainage pipe in it?

No, the important thing is that the surface doesn’t become slippery when wet.

From your pictures, I would first develop an idea of how all elements should work together, since the mix of shapes and materials right in front of the entrance still offers design potential.
manohara18 Apr 2020 14:40
A link I posted earlier was deleted. I wasn’t aware of the regulation. Now I know.

Am I allowed to mention the company? It’s a shop offering all kinds of concrete products, and I get the impression that the owner is very knowledgeable.

That could be useful for the concrete entrance platform.

I had a “large” (20 m² (215 sq ft)) concrete terrace poured and ground down at my place. The result is a surface similar to terrazzo, with polished pebbles. I would prefer that over the “coating slabs.”
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ypg
18 Apr 2020 18:06
manohara schrieb:

A link I posted was deleted earlier. I wasn’t aware of the rule. Now I know.

But you should be aware. When registering, you are informed about the terms and conditions. Names, companies, etc. are allowed to be mentioned.