ᐅ General contractor requests construction supervision from DEKRA

Created on: 26 Feb 2017 23:08
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Flauti
Hello,
we are in the process of hiring a general contractor, and during the last discussion, the topic of construction supervision came up. I mentioned that I would prefer this to be handled by TÜV or Bauherren-Schutzbund, but my counterpart suggested why not DEKRA.
When I asked several times why specifically DEKRA, the answer was that their company has a "framework agreement" with DEKRA.

This made me a bit suspicious – isn’t the main purpose of construction supervision to be independent from the construction company? If DEKRA has a framework agreement with the company, wouldn’t that actually be a reason for me to hire TÜV, for example...

Am I being too distrustful? What do you think?
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toxicmolotof
28 Feb 2017 20:56
For 3,300 euros, I would expect the inspector from TÜV (or whoever it may be) to spend at least 30 hours on the construction site... take a close look at what you are really getting for that money. I have to admit, I haven’t checked what is actually offered for that price. This amount is definitely higher than what those organizations usually charge. Maybe it will result in something meaningful, but I can’t judge that.

My former landlord of my first apartment, who is an expert in building defects, told me when he heard we were building... a proper inspection takes about one-quarter of the time needed to plan and oversee a house... In other words: expert = one-quarter of the architect’s fee.

For our house, the architect received about 25,000 euros, so an expert would have probably received around 6,000 euros. Why those organizations can offer it for 3,000 euros... either less work is involved, or it’s something else... or are there houses that cost only half as much as an otherwise “equivalent” house?

My point is not that expensive means good, but that price differences often reflect differences in service.
77.willo28 Feb 2017 21:07
We have an inspector through the Bauherren-Schutzbund, and as a layperson, he seems very thorough to me. He is often on-site and examines everything quite carefully.
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Alex85
28 Feb 2017 21:07
When building with architects, you have your expert on your own side. An external building surveyor is usually required to oversee the work of a general contractor (GC), since the site manager role is fulfilled by the GC.
RobsonMKK28 Feb 2017 21:09
The all-inclusive offer from the Builders’ Protection Association was just under 9,000 euros. I guess it depends on the expert.
77.willo28 Feb 2017 22:05
Alex85 schrieb:
When building with architects, you have your expert on your side. An independent expert is usually necessary to supervise the construction by a general contractor (GC), since the site manager role is provided by the GC

That may be true. I’m building with a developer and found the $3,000 a worthwhile investment.
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Alex85
28 Feb 2017 22:12
77.willo schrieb:
That may be true. I am building with a developer and found the 3,000€ a worthwhile investment.

I agree with that.
Was my post misunderstood?
I wanted to question the purpose of building through an architect. After all, you have the site manager on your side there and are already compensating them accordingly.