Hello,
I would like to discuss our planned floor plans here. Attached are the ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF) plans. The house is designed for 4 people (+dog) and has just over 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) without a basement, featuring a gable roof with knee walls between 1 and 1.25 meters (3.3 and 4.1 ft), depending on how much is ultimately allowed. The main garden faces south, with about 4 meters (13 ft) of space to the west. On the east side, a 9-meter (30 ft) garage is planned (our neighbor is there). We do not need an extra guest room or office. If an additional room is ever needed later, a section on the ground floor can be partitioned off.
[ B ]Ground Floor:[/B]
What I like:
- Decently sized shower bathroom (a shower on the ground floor is necessary, mainly because of the dog). Once the second child arrives, a second comfortable shower bathroom will definitely be practical.
- Kitchen and dining area oriented towards the main garden (south), where we usually spend most of our time
- Small separated area in the living room for a sewing corner with direct access to the living area (we want to be in the same area in the evening, not in separate rooms)
- Lots of natural light
What I am considering:
- Is the staircase size of 1.50 x 2.75 meters (5 x 9 ft) sufficient?
- Is the sewing corner possibly too small? (1.60 x 4 meters / 5.25 x 13 ft)
- Is the area for the coat rack adequate?
[ B ]Upper Floor:[/B]
What I like:
- Children’s rooms with dormer windows both facing south and equally sized
- Bedroom facing north (I hate heat when sleeping)
- Separate laundry room on the upper floor for washing machine and dryer
What I am considering:
- Is the bathroom too small? How could it be furnished efficiently? The utility room + bathroom area can of course still be completely changed. Maybe put the utility room entirely to the north so the washing machine and dryer fit under the sloped ceiling? Access to the utility room could also be arranged through the bathroom instead of from the hallway. What are your ideas?
- I am not quite happy with the bottom left corner as a whole. The storage room could also be removed in favor of a larger, more open hallway with a roof window (Velux) and possibly a dresser along the wall plus an armchair?
I look forward to suggestions, critiques, and discussions. These are, of course, not final plans yet, but the dimensions are accurate and should provide a good basis for discussion.
Best regards
Tego
I would like to discuss our planned floor plans here. Attached are the ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF) plans. The house is designed for 4 people (+dog) and has just over 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) without a basement, featuring a gable roof with knee walls between 1 and 1.25 meters (3.3 and 4.1 ft), depending on how much is ultimately allowed. The main garden faces south, with about 4 meters (13 ft) of space to the west. On the east side, a 9-meter (30 ft) garage is planned (our neighbor is there). We do not need an extra guest room or office. If an additional room is ever needed later, a section on the ground floor can be partitioned off.
[ B ]Ground Floor:[/B]
What I like:
- Decently sized shower bathroom (a shower on the ground floor is necessary, mainly because of the dog). Once the second child arrives, a second comfortable shower bathroom will definitely be practical.
- Kitchen and dining area oriented towards the main garden (south), where we usually spend most of our time
- Small separated area in the living room for a sewing corner with direct access to the living area (we want to be in the same area in the evening, not in separate rooms)
- Lots of natural light
What I am considering:
- Is the staircase size of 1.50 x 2.75 meters (5 x 9 ft) sufficient?
- Is the sewing corner possibly too small? (1.60 x 4 meters / 5.25 x 13 ft)
- Is the area for the coat rack adequate?
[ B ]Upper Floor:[/B]
What I like:
- Children’s rooms with dormer windows both facing south and equally sized
- Bedroom facing north (I hate heat when sleeping)
- Separate laundry room on the upper floor for washing machine and dryer
What I am considering:
- Is the bathroom too small? How could it be furnished efficiently? The utility room + bathroom area can of course still be completely changed. Maybe put the utility room entirely to the north so the washing machine and dryer fit under the sloped ceiling? Access to the utility room could also be arranged through the bathroom instead of from the hallway. What are your ideas?
- I am not quite happy with the bottom left corner as a whole. The storage room could also be removed in favor of a larger, more open hallway with a roof window (Velux) and possibly a dresser along the wall plus an armchair?
I look forward to suggestions, critiques, and discussions. These are, of course, not final plans yet, but the dimensions are accurate and should provide a good basis for discussion.
Best regards
Tego
Tego12 schrieb:
Those were the main points. Any comments? 🙂 Sounds good. Maybe you can share the new floor plan again once you have received it from the designer.
Tego12 schrieb:
- Storage room upper floor: We tend to leave it out. With the higher knee wall, you could place wardrobes or a chest of drawers there, and a large roof window could still provide light to the hallway. I would think carefully about that. I do miss this storage room in our house. Another option: Make the storage room only as wide as the stair opening and leave the left part open to the hallway. You could then also add a window there to provide some light.
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Bauexperte12 Jul 2016 09:45Hello,
If you raise the knee wall by 20 cm (8 inches) and shift the staircase accordingly by the same amount, the children's rooms will effectively become smaller. Children primarily use floor space rather than living area; the slightly larger dormer hardly changes this. In terms of living area, it should amount to (almost) the same again.
A slightly higher knee wall does not really improve the bathroom situation either, since a knee wall still needs to be built in front of the bathtub and shower on the eaves side, so the layout remains unchanged. Also, don’t forget that the lighting in the bathroom needs to be adjusted. Your bedroom benefits from the slightly raised knee wall; the bed placement is quite daring as it is.
Best regards, Bauexperte
Tego12 schrieb:
Hello,
- the knee wall is raised by 0.2 m (8 inches), creating more space in the bathroom and children's rooms
- the additional space in the children's rooms is taken back again because the staircase and thus the corridors on the upper floor move up by 0.2 cm (0.08 inches) to allow a slightly more generous staircase design.
If you raise the knee wall by 20 cm (8 inches) and shift the staircase accordingly by the same amount, the children's rooms will effectively become smaller. Children primarily use floor space rather than living area; the slightly larger dormer hardly changes this. In terms of living area, it should amount to (almost) the same again.
A slightly higher knee wall does not really improve the bathroom situation either, since a knee wall still needs to be built in front of the bathtub and shower on the eaves side, so the layout remains unchanged. Also, don’t forget that the lighting in the bathroom needs to be adjusted. Your bedroom benefits from the slightly raised knee wall; the bed placement is quite daring as it is.
Best regards, Bauexperte
Curly schrieb:
Hello,
the washing machine and dryer are located directly next to a children’s bedroom with a thin wall. I imagine it will get quite noisy in the children’s room.
Best regards,
SabineThanks for the tip. Our washing machine usually runs on a timer, so I think we can manage that. Should we still try to have a wall that offers better sound insulation? Is that possible and useful?
Jochen104 schrieb:
Sounds good. Maybe you can share the new floor plan again once you’ve received it from the planner.I’d be happy to do that. It might take a little while since the next version won’t be a hand drawing anymore but will be digitized.
Bauexperte schrieb:
Hello,
If you raise the knee wall by 20 cm (8 inches) and shift the stair layout by the same amount, the children’s rooms will actually become smaller in usable space. Children play on floor space, not on living space; the slightly larger dormer doesn’t really change that. Converted to living area, however, it might end up almost the same overall 😉You’re absolutely right. Whether we move the wall 10 or 20 cm (4 or 8 inches) will be decided after we’ve spoken with the staircase builder (hopefully within this week as they are conveniently local), so we know exactly what dimensions the stairs need.
Bauexperte schrieb:
A slightly higher knee wall won’t really change the bathroom situation either, since a knee wall still needs to be built in front of the bathtub and shower under the eaves side; the layout won’t change. Also, don’t forget the lighting in the bathroom will have to be adjusted. On the other hand, your bedroom benefits from the slightly higher knee wall; the bed placement is quite boldly planned anyway.
Regards, BauexperteThe bathroom will at least feel a bit airier, but you’re right, it doesn’t really change much. It’s good for the bedroom, yes. As for the children’s rooms, I can live with 0.2 m (8 inches) less space. That corresponds roughly to about one square meter (10.8 square feet) of floor area per room, but the size still feels right for us overall.
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