ᐅ Single-family house floor plan of approximately 150 square meters on a plot located behind other properties
Created on: 27 Feb 2023 08:24
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Hausbaurer
Hello housebuilding forum members,
I enjoy reading this forum and would like to share our planning for discussion. Our plot is designated as parcel number 173/6.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 498 m² (driveway approx. 60 m² (645 sq ft))
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio: No development plan (§34 Building Code)
Floor area ratio: No development plan (§34 Building Code)
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary according to Bavarian Building Regulations
Edge development: none
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: Gable roof with a pitch of 40-45°
Architectural style: Single-family house
Orientation: Ridge line East/West
Placement on the plot: Northwest
Maximum height / limits: approx. 9 m (30 ft) (§34 Building Code)
Immediate neighbors: North neighbor 1.5 floors with gable roof. South neighbor single floor with hip roof. West neighbor 1.5 floors with gable roof. Next-nearest neighbor south 1.5–2 floors with gable roof and knee wall >1.2 m (4 ft).
Owner’s requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Gable roof, knee wall 1.4 m (4.5 ft), single-family house
Basement, floors: Usable basement (concrete), ground floor, upper floor
Number of people, age: 4 (2 adults + 2 toddlers)
Room requirements on ground and upper floors: Ground floor (kitchen, living room, shower bath, wardrobe, office), upper floor (2 bedrooms, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom)
Office: Home office
Guest bedrooms per year: 0
Open or closed architecture: Tending rather closed
Conservative or modern construction: Modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Yes, no kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: No
Music/sound wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Garage or carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also with reasons why some features are wanted or not:
House design
Planner:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?: Shower niches in the bathrooms, large children’s rooms facing west, L-shaped living-dining area instead of a narrow layout
What do you dislike? Why?: Upper floor bathroom, office located in the southeast instead of northwest
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 580,000 EUR
Personal price limit for house including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: Air-to-water heat pump with underfloor heating.
If you had to give up, which details / extensions
- could you give up:
Office on ground floor (if replaced by usable basement space)
- could you not give up:
4 bedrooms
Why is the design as it is now?
Requirements and many attempts with our furniture. As much garden as possible on the south and east sides.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How much clearance should be planned on the north side for the garage or carport? The passage should allow room for people and bicycles (bicycle shed planned behind the garage/carport). Is the overall design usable or have we overlooked something?
Best regards,
Hausbaurer
I enjoy reading this forum and would like to share our planning for discussion. Our plot is designated as parcel number 173/6.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 498 m² (driveway approx. 60 m² (645 sq ft))
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio: No development plan (§34 Building Code)
Floor area ratio: No development plan (§34 Building Code)
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary according to Bavarian Building Regulations
Edge development: none
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: Gable roof with a pitch of 40-45°
Architectural style: Single-family house
Orientation: Ridge line East/West
Placement on the plot: Northwest
Maximum height / limits: approx. 9 m (30 ft) (§34 Building Code)
Immediate neighbors: North neighbor 1.5 floors with gable roof. South neighbor single floor with hip roof. West neighbor 1.5 floors with gable roof. Next-nearest neighbor south 1.5–2 floors with gable roof and knee wall >1.2 m (4 ft).
Owner’s requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Gable roof, knee wall 1.4 m (4.5 ft), single-family house
Basement, floors: Usable basement (concrete), ground floor, upper floor
Number of people, age: 4 (2 adults + 2 toddlers)
Room requirements on ground and upper floors: Ground floor (kitchen, living room, shower bath, wardrobe, office), upper floor (2 bedrooms, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom)
Office: Home office
Guest bedrooms per year: 0
Open or closed architecture: Tending rather closed
Conservative or modern construction: Modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Yes, no kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: No
Music/sound wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Garage or carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also with reasons why some features are wanted or not:
House design
Planner:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?: Shower niches in the bathrooms, large children’s rooms facing west, L-shaped living-dining area instead of a narrow layout
What do you dislike? Why?: Upper floor bathroom, office located in the southeast instead of northwest
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 580,000 EUR
Personal price limit for house including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: Air-to-water heat pump with underfloor heating.
If you had to give up, which details / extensions
- could you give up:
Office on ground floor (if replaced by usable basement space)
- could you not give up:
4 bedrooms
Why is the design as it is now?
Requirements and many attempts with our furniture. As much garden as possible on the south and east sides.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How much clearance should be planned on the north side for the garage or carport? The passage should allow room for people and bicycles (bicycle shed planned behind the garage/carport). Is the overall design usable or have we overlooked something?
Best regards,
Hausbaurer
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hanghaus20231 Mar 2023 10:27Or should the neighbor’s garage remain as it is, with the driveway from the west? Of course, the wall thickness of the garage and storage room should be a maximum of 17.5 cm (7 inches). With a prefabricated garage, it can even be thinner.
The house, however, should be 4 m (13 feet) away from the garage. Even better, 6 m (20 feet), so you can have two parking spaces and a bit more western orientation for the garden.
Please show an aerial photo of the surroundings.
The house, however, should be 4 m (13 feet) away from the garage. Even better, 6 m (20 feet), so you can have two parking spaces and a bit more western orientation for the garden.
Please show an aerial photo of the surroundings.
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Hausbaurer1 Mar 2023 10:34RomeoZwo schrieb:
My first advice would be to also register this in the land registry, including all rights and obligations. Otherwise, if either of you sells, these “agreements” would no longer apply and there is a huge potential for conflicts.
If joint use is intended anyway, why not do it completely – including access to his garage from the north?
Can you roughly mark his house on the site plan? That sounds reasonable. From our point of view, however, this is not necessary; we are planning with the 3m (10 feet) access road that belongs to us. The fact that the neighbor’s access is insufficient and he wants to share ours is a concession on our part. We have not been asked to formalize this contractually.
His house is shown on the site plan with plot number 190/25. He is renovating the existing building, not constructing new (currently in progress).
RomeoZwo schrieb:
But why should the children’s rooms face west? A new house will be built quite close there. Both children’s rooms facing south (for example with dormers) offer a much nicer view. The bungalow to the south also looks quite new; the plot is divided, but used jointly, and I don’t expect that to change anytime soon. Also, access for a property behind would be difficult there. The beautiful and “private” side of your property will be the south and east (there are trees in front of the railway embankment).
My concept would therefore be children’s rooms facing south, bedroom probably northwest (ideally east, but how noisy/busy is the railway line?). The railway line is only used once a day on weekdays (for waste transport to and from the transfer station at the harbor).
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
a bit more west orientation of the garden. Hopefully, the original poster will share a Google Maps image with a wider view. Normally, I am a big fan of a "west" orientation, but here, especially considering the probably somewhat larger new building of the neighbor compared to the existing house, this will be the "blocked" side.
What does the north side look like? Is lot 173/5 going to be or already built on?
Hausbaurer schrieb:
His house is shown on the site plan with the parcel number 190/25. He is renovating the existing building and not constructing a new one (currently in progress).
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The railway line is used only once a day on weekdays (transporting waste to and from the transfer station at the port). Okay, that changes a lot. Then it would also be an option to move the house as far east as possible to create a west-facing garden/terrace.
The houses to the north partly use the gravel road as an access; would that still be possible for you as well?
Hausbaurer schrieb:
That sounds reasonable. From our perspective, however, there is no such need—we are planning with the 3m (10 feet) driveway that belongs to us. The fact that the neighbor’s driveway is not sufficient and they want to share ours is a concession on our part.I completely understand your point, including the shape of your property, but honestly, the whole plan seems quite absurd. You have 20m x 3m (65 feet x 10 feet) next to exactly 20m x 2.5m (65 feet x 8 feet) at the neighbor’s place, both driveways “concreted over” right next to each other in parallel.
If a proper right of way had been arranged here, everyone would have benefited—especially when it comes to reducing impervious surfaces.
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