Hello everyone,
We last discussed our latest design in this thread. Since a friend of ours recently started working independently as an architect, we switched to her. She basically adopted the old design with minor changes, which we would like to put up for discussion again here.
Checklist:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size including hinterland/former agricultural land (already cleared greenhouses) total 2800 sqm (30,139 sq ft)
Slope: the front 32m (105 ft) wide plot slopes down 1.60 m (5 ft) from left to right. The land also slopes slightly towards the back, within the 15 m (49 ft) deep building area the terrain drops about 60-80 cm (2-2.6 ft). The plot is the lowest in the street.
Site coverage ratio 0.4
Floor area ratio 0.8
Building area, building line, and boundary: shown in the processed development plan excerpt, approximate planned building outlines marked in red. The entire orange area including the white-marked "path" on the right edge of the lot belongs to us. Below this path is a public wastewater pipe that must not be built over. We need to keep 2 meters (6.5 ft) distance from this path when building the house or 1 meter (3.3 ft) if a garage is placed there. Therefore, attaching the garage on the right side makes little sense. The house would then shift much further to the left and our terrace would be more often in the shadow of the left (southwest) neighboring building. The development plan for the hinterland buildings was approved at our request (for potential future use, e.g., a bungalow for children or elderly). As long as we don’t build in the back, we can use the path area ourselves; it is currently planned as a parking space for cars if we want to park close to the house or for guests.
Bordering buildings: on the left (southwest) a bungalow, which due to its higher elevation can cast significant shadows in winter. Behind this bungalow on our plot boundary are a garage and further back a shed not included in the development plan, both causing shading when the sun is low. On the right (northeast), there is a 1.5-story building with a garage bordering our path.
Building height: 2 full floors
Preferred roof type: classic shapes (a visible roof structure is planned above the upper floor)
Style: flexible
Garden orientation Northwest
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: preferably classic "traditionally cozy," possibly somewhat ornate and combined with modern elements
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people (43 + 43 + 3 + 1 years); third child/foster child unlikely but you never know
Home office: for personal documents, books, etc.
Annual guest stays: max. 10 nights per year so far
Open or closed architecture: preferably open
Conservative or modern construction: both have pros and cons, a mix is welcome
Open kitchen, kitchen island: due to noise from cooking, dishwasher, and open airspace towards the bedrooms, we want to be able to close the kitchen; a kitchen island is welcome if space allows but not mandatory
Number of dining seats: typically 4, up to 12-18 with guests
Fireplace: no
Music/speaker wall: not required, a small stereo system with two compact speakers will fit somewhere
Balcony, roof terrace: omitted for cost reasons
Garage, carport: at least one double garage
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routines, including reasons for or against certain features: see below
House design
Planner:
- Architect’s drawing based on our own draft
- Estimated price by architect/planner: unknown so far
Personal budget for house including equipment: 500,000-600,000 € (plus ancillary costs)
Preferred heating technology: geothermal heat pump, deep drilling
Why our own floor plan rather than a complete architect design? Apparently easier for the architect and she probably knows I can be stubborn.
We positioned the house “angled” in the building area so it runs parallel to the right boundary. This way we get a better view from the southwest terrace into the northwest garden and less visibility from the street and opposite neighbor houses. Another reason is to build as far away as possible from our higher left neighbor (whose shadow from low winter sun can be long) to get more sunlight in our windows and on the terrace. For brightness reasons, I also planned the garage separately from the house on the left southwest edge; it should be built as low and flat as possible, so it doesn’t cause significantly more shadow in winter than the neighbor’s buildings already do.
By the way, the open airspace above is a long-standing wish we don't want to give up completely, even if this means needing well soundproofed doors to the children’s rooms, for example.
Now to my questions:
- The corner urinal in the guest WC was drawn rather space-consuming; there might be more compact constructions available. Still, the area is somewhat tight. Does anyone have better suggestions for the layout including the urinal?
- For the children’s bedrooms, I am considering giving the side windows double width for better daylight. With the visible roof beams, these will be large rooms, so a bit more window area might be good?
- In the parents' dressing room, the wardrobes are separated by solid walls even in the passage area. Should I remove these walls for more freedom of movement and flexibility? Then you’d see the wardrobe side walls when entering, but as long as no custom-made wardrobes are installed, this would give more options for furnishing?
- We plan to place a family bed 270 cm (106 inches) wide in the master bedroom in the early years. According to the plan, only 49 cm (19 inches) of space remains on each side. Does anyone have ideas on how this could be improved? Should we reduce some space from the open airspace? Or have a larger bedroom that extends beyond the ground floor walls?
- Is the kitchen layout practical? To have plenty of workspace and storage, we mainly want to install base cabinets and wall cabinets.
- Are there other visible errors or suggestions for improvements?
Thanks in advance for all your feedback!
We last discussed our latest design in this thread. Since a friend of ours recently started working independently as an architect, we switched to her. She basically adopted the old design with minor changes, which we would like to put up for discussion again here.
Checklist:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size including hinterland/former agricultural land (already cleared greenhouses) total 2800 sqm (30,139 sq ft)
Slope: the front 32m (105 ft) wide plot slopes down 1.60 m (5 ft) from left to right. The land also slopes slightly towards the back, within the 15 m (49 ft) deep building area the terrain drops about 60-80 cm (2-2.6 ft). The plot is the lowest in the street.
Site coverage ratio 0.4
Floor area ratio 0.8
Building area, building line, and boundary: shown in the processed development plan excerpt, approximate planned building outlines marked in red. The entire orange area including the white-marked "path" on the right edge of the lot belongs to us. Below this path is a public wastewater pipe that must not be built over. We need to keep 2 meters (6.5 ft) distance from this path when building the house or 1 meter (3.3 ft) if a garage is placed there. Therefore, attaching the garage on the right side makes little sense. The house would then shift much further to the left and our terrace would be more often in the shadow of the left (southwest) neighboring building. The development plan for the hinterland buildings was approved at our request (for potential future use, e.g., a bungalow for children or elderly). As long as we don’t build in the back, we can use the path area ourselves; it is currently planned as a parking space for cars if we want to park close to the house or for guests.
Bordering buildings: on the left (southwest) a bungalow, which due to its higher elevation can cast significant shadows in winter. Behind this bungalow on our plot boundary are a garage and further back a shed not included in the development plan, both causing shading when the sun is low. On the right (northeast), there is a 1.5-story building with a garage bordering our path.
Building height: 2 full floors
Preferred roof type: classic shapes (a visible roof structure is planned above the upper floor)
Style: flexible
Garden orientation Northwest
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: preferably classic "traditionally cozy," possibly somewhat ornate and combined with modern elements
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people (43 + 43 + 3 + 1 years); third child/foster child unlikely but you never know
Home office: for personal documents, books, etc.
Annual guest stays: max. 10 nights per year so far
Open or closed architecture: preferably open
Conservative or modern construction: both have pros and cons, a mix is welcome
Open kitchen, kitchen island: due to noise from cooking, dishwasher, and open airspace towards the bedrooms, we want to be able to close the kitchen; a kitchen island is welcome if space allows but not mandatory
Number of dining seats: typically 4, up to 12-18 with guests
Fireplace: no
Music/speaker wall: not required, a small stereo system with two compact speakers will fit somewhere
Balcony, roof terrace: omitted for cost reasons
Garage, carport: at least one double garage
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routines, including reasons for or against certain features: see below
House design
Planner:
- Architect’s drawing based on our own draft
- Estimated price by architect/planner: unknown so far
Personal budget for house including equipment: 500,000-600,000 € (plus ancillary costs)
Preferred heating technology: geothermal heat pump, deep drilling
Why our own floor plan rather than a complete architect design? Apparently easier for the architect and she probably knows I can be stubborn.
We positioned the house “angled” in the building area so it runs parallel to the right boundary. This way we get a better view from the southwest terrace into the northwest garden and less visibility from the street and opposite neighbor houses. Another reason is to build as far away as possible from our higher left neighbor (whose shadow from low winter sun can be long) to get more sunlight in our windows and on the terrace. For brightness reasons, I also planned the garage separately from the house on the left southwest edge; it should be built as low and flat as possible, so it doesn’t cause significantly more shadow in winter than the neighbor’s buildings already do.
By the way, the open airspace above is a long-standing wish we don't want to give up completely, even if this means needing well soundproofed doors to the children’s rooms, for example.
Now to my questions:
- The corner urinal in the guest WC was drawn rather space-consuming; there might be more compact constructions available. Still, the area is somewhat tight. Does anyone have better suggestions for the layout including the urinal?
- For the children’s bedrooms, I am considering giving the side windows double width for better daylight. With the visible roof beams, these will be large rooms, so a bit more window area might be good?
- In the parents' dressing room, the wardrobes are separated by solid walls even in the passage area. Should I remove these walls for more freedom of movement and flexibility? Then you’d see the wardrobe side walls when entering, but as long as no custom-made wardrobes are installed, this would give more options for furnishing?
- We plan to place a family bed 270 cm (106 inches) wide in the master bedroom in the early years. According to the plan, only 49 cm (19 inches) of space remains on each side. Does anyone have ideas on how this could be improved? Should we reduce some space from the open airspace? Or have a larger bedroom that extends beyond the ground floor walls?
- Is the kitchen layout practical? To have plenty of workspace and storage, we mainly want to install base cabinets and wall cabinets.
- Are there other visible errors or suggestions for improvements?
Thanks in advance for all your feedback!
RomeoZwo schrieb:
If the pathway is planned anyway, I would place the garage along the path and the house entrance there as well.
That way, I wouldn’t have anything in the southwest garden and wouldn’t have to cross the public road or go through the living room from the garage to get into the house.
Also, I would shift the house as far north as possible within the building zone. There is more than enough space for a future bungalow behind as well.
[ATTACH alt="Bild1.jpg"]51346[/ATTACH] Thank you for the interesting suggestion. Placing a garage in that spot could also make sense. However, it will probably take decades before the land behind is developed. Until then, the garage would stand right in the middle of the large garden, blocking part of the view from the house onto our green land. For that reason, I’m rather unsure if that would be the right decision today.
Nice-Nofret schrieb:
.. and why don’t you place the house in the rear building zone? That way you would have a lovely south-facing garden and fewer neighboring buildings.
If the front part is ever built over later, it would also be less of an issue. This is due to a combination of two reasons: We prefer some privacy, and because our plot is situated lower down, placing the house that way would mean about a dozen neighboring and opposite houses could look down onto our terrace. Even drivers coming downhill toward our house (we are located at a kind of small T-intersection, although lightly trafficked) could still look over a taller hedge and see us, and vice versa. We don’t like the feeling of living on display and I personally find it more relaxing not to be constantly aware of all traffic movements on the nearby streets.
We mainly chose this plot because the neighboring buildings were already there, so we knew we could create a private, secluded retreat here. We wanted to avoid new developments where all neighbors can observe every little thing you do. If all the surrounding houses were on the same ground level, your suggestion would be a very serious option for us. But unfortunately, given the topography here, it’s not feasible.
ltenzer schrieb:
Unfortunately, not with the current topography.It’s well hidden in the drawings, though (???).https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
First of all, I have to commend the reference to the previous thread (from which I naturally also went back to the thread before that). What we see here is largely based on a design of yours, which you titled "Kaho 1" in the previous thread. I interpret this as a design inspired by Katja, although it differs significantly from a design Katja contributed there (which moves somewhat in the direction suggested here by @RomeoZwo). Even in the previous thread, it had already evolved quite a bit away from the Westphalian village school with carriage house concept. I quite like it now—as far as I’m concerned, the open space is mostly reminiscent of the 1980s. Overall, reviewing both previous threads is a bit much for me right now, so I will just address a small part for the time being:
In this specific case, I would see it more as a welcome loosening up. Yes, I simply named the design file that way when creating it because I implemented Katja’s suggested staircase position in it. I really should have given the file a different name, but once it’s online, that’s how it remains.
It’s good to hear that my intention to shift the windows has at least found a critical supporter with you. We will present this at the meeting with the architect next week.
11ant schrieb:
It was well hidden in the drawings though (???)Yes, unfortunately the development plans do not include elevation points of the visually relevant neighboring properties. Maybe I should take a photo, although height differences are not always clearly visible in pictures either.
I meant more that your written description of the topography and the drawings of the house in the landscape do not match: if you are not exaggerating excessively, then the drawings are clearly inaccurate, meaning the plans are based on an incorrect terrain profile and the elevations show the house emerging from the ground at the wrong heights.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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