ᐅ Concrete offer for a turnkey home only available with proof of land ownership?

Created on: 23 Jan 2019 11:32
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goalkeeper
Hello everyone,

My wife and I are currently applying for a municipally owned building plot, or several. Since we also live in this community, we will probably get a plot.

However, some construction companies are hesitant to provide a concrete, turnkey offer upfront because we do not yet have the mentioned plot.

What are your experiences? Similar?
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Mottenhausen
6 Feb 2019 10:36
goalkeeper schrieb:

But you can be sure that we have planned a larger financial buffer in any case and certainly won’t blindly crash into a wall.

That sounds good. If I compare our status (construction/working plans completed just before starting the build) with yours (first quotes received), we are currently at about 120%. This means you need to add roughly 20% to the general contractor’s house price at this stage to get a sense of where you will end up roughly. (Without furnishing and so on)

There are just so many things: electric roller shutters on emergency exits are great, but then there must be a manual crank handle in case of a power outage. That’s not free. And it’s like that all the time, from one hassle to the next. Surveyors and so on also send great invoices that always exceed the budgeted amount, and basically the gross-net trick: 19% VAT is added almost everywhere where you didn’t anticipate it.
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haydee
6 Feb 2019 11:23
It is no coincidence that all the brochures and many offers list prices starting from the top edge of the basement ceiling or the foundation slab. Houses can be calculated from there; everything else is uncertain.

When I think about all the additional invoices we had, or the architect’s estimate that was way off — a larger five-figure amount — despite a general contractor’s offer for a turnkey house.

The earthworks, the geologist, the foundation slab, the retaining wall, the garage roof, and so on.

For example, the construction site electricity was quoted at 200 euros for the box including connection, but the electricity provider changed their regulations and our civil engineer was no longer allowed to do the work.

That’s how 200 euros became 1,000 euros (after renegotiation).
11ant7 Feb 2019 00:59
boxandroof schrieb:
I would especially pay attention to the situation mentioned by ant11

What kind of creature is that, does it have tusks on its rear?
boxandroof schrieb:
the row house from different companies.

You can do that – the problem, in my opinion, mainly arises when the planners each go their own way. With one planner, you can even choose different contractors, unless one is building as a general contractor and the other is managing separate contracts.

Nowadays, I see it similarly to the windows.
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ypg
7 Feb 2019 01:07
11ant schrieb:
It is possible to do - I mainly find it problematic when planners work independently of each other. With one planner, you can even choose different contractors, as long as one isn’t building as the general contractor and the other is hired through separate contracts.

It is what it is. Every homeowner has to make the best of it.
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Zaba12
9 Feb 2019 14:34
goalkeeper schrieb:
My goodness, you are aggressive... it’s unbearable. Have I done something to you personally?

I don’t think I owe anyone here an explanation of how we approach things. I would also like to consider myself a person with common sense, who certainly questions things critically. That’s why I find the behavior here from a user who has already written over 2000 posts very inappropriate and a bit strange.

But you can be sure that we have planned for a considerable financial buffer and will definitely not be heading into this with our eyes closed.

Otherwise, I wish you a bit more calmness so you can take the day a little more relaxed.

This morning I met our northern neighbor.

The additional financing is continuing steadily. He miscalculated. Due to the earthworks (by the way, with no basement), he had to secure more financing. Now he wants to do most of the interior work on his house himself.
This is now the third additional financing for the 6 houses put up on the 22 building plots.

Things are moving forward!
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Nordlys
9 Feb 2019 21:00
Here are the facts. According to the base offer, the house cost us 163,000. In reality, it ended up being over 200,000. Why? Because the earthworks on the slope, the utility connections and drainage, as well as the garden landscaping and paving, are not included in the house price but depend on the property. You just need to be aware of this and not underestimate it. When the budget becomes tight, the advice is to be strict: opt out of roller shutters, choose gray windows instead of others, skip the rimless toilet, go for a Nobilia kitchen instead of Nolte, etc. All of this is better than borrowing more money and increasing your debt even further. Remember, it’s called homeownership, but it only truly belongs to you once it’s fully paid off! Before that, you have just swapped rent for mortgage payments. Karsten