ᐅ Concrete offer for a turnkey home only available with proof of land ownership?

Müllerin schrieb:
Then take this as the initial amount, to which quite a bit will be added.

It’s always the same – no one wants to hear it in the initial excitement. When we were considering building, we spoke to a prefab house seller and a general contractor, and of course, we didn’t have a plot of land yet. We just wanted to know what a fully customized house would cost.

When we then looked at specific plots, we quickly realized it’s really unwise to plan a house without owning the land first. But some experiences everyone has to make on their own.

As I said: this concerns an end terraced house – all end houses in the new development have the same plot sizes and building site dimensions. A zoning plan (building permit / planning permission) is also in place. There shouldn’t be many surprises, especially since we are planning without a basement.

This mainly serves as a basis to determine the total capital requirement including the land.

goalkeeper schrieb:
As I said: this is about an end-terraced house – all end houses in the new development have the same plot sizes and building dimensions. There is also a zoning plan in place. There won’t be many surprises since we are planning without a basement anyway.

This mainly serves as a basis for determining the total capital requirement including the land.

So, has the geotechnical survey and soil analysis already been completed?

Why do beginners always try to be smarter than those who have already built, or are currently building, with their own experience and able to exchange knowledge with their established neighbors?

Out of 22 building plots in our development, with 5 houses already completed, 2 have needed additional financing. Do you think they had no zoning plan or general contractors backing them who prepared a full capital assessment including a contingency? Do you think they are all less informed than you?

Or do you believe these are isolated cases? Just browse through the forum... we have seen enough people here complaining.

Here @Müllerin advises you to be cautious, but you still post nonsense.

…"There won’t be many surprises since we are planning without a basement"….

You can only claim things like that once the house is built and you are about to move in. Not before! That’s why the topic of total costs including financing is so sensitive; unexpected issues always arise.

Your 6 quotes are meaningless since you can’t rely on offers with validity periods of 6–8 weeks.

Zaba12 schrieb:
So the geotechnical survey and soil analysis have already been done?

Why do some beginners always try to be smarter than those who have already built or are currently building with their own experience and have been able to exchange ideas with their completed neighbors?

Out of 22 building plots in our development, with 5 houses already erected, 2 went into additional financing. Do you think they didn’t have a zoning plan, general contractors behind them who prepared a full capital assessment including a buffer? Do you think they are all less knowledgeable than you?

Or do you believe these are isolated cases? Just search through the forum... we’ve already had enough people here complaining.

@Müllerin even advised you to be cautious, and yet you still post such nonsense.

..."There won’t be many surprises since we’re planning without a basement anyway"...

You can only say something like that once the house is built and you’re about to move in. Not before! That’s why the issue of total costs including financing is so sensitive—there’s always something unexpected.

Your 6 offers are worthless; you can wipe your backside with them since quotes typically only hold for 6–8 weeks.

Goodness, you are so aggressive... it’s unbearable. Have I done anything to you personally?

I don’t think I owe anyone here an explanation about how we are handling this. I would also like to think I have common sense, which is certainly also critically questioning things. Therefore, I find the attitude of a user with over 2000 posts quite inappropriate and somewhat unsettling.

But you can be sure that we have definitely planned for a larger financial buffer and are certainly not going to blindly drive into a wall.

Otherwise, I wish you a bit more calmness so you can take the day a little more relaxed.

goalkeeper schrieb:
In our Rhein-Neckar district, this is a very sensitive topic. In times of unpopular decisions and public protests like Stuttgart 21, no municipality wants to risk upsetting people by not following proper procedures or even triggering a wave of lawsuits.

A nice dream – municipalities just bend the rules as they please. There’s nothing you can do about it...

goalkeeper schrieb:
Wow, you’re really aggressive... it’s hard to deal with. Have I done anything to you personally?

I believe I don’t have to give anyone here an explanation about how we are handling this. I would also like to consider myself as having common sense, which certainly includes some critical thinking. Therefore, I find the behavior here from a user who has already posted over 2000 times to be very inappropriate and somewhat unsettling.

You can be sure, however, that we have planned a substantial financial buffer and definitely won’t be blindly heading into trouble.

Otherwise, I wish you a bit more calmness so you can take the day a little more relaxed.

Unfortunately, I also find your standpoint unsettling. Both of my neighbors have done everything possible and calculated with common sense. So what should set you apart from them?

You are a construction novice and you’re acting as if you have this new situation under control, and that’s what @Müllerin wanted to tell you... this is far from the case! And apparently you didn’t understand her subtle hint, otherwise you wouldn’t have written your following post.

And if you don’t want to understand it here, which is why I have been more direct, your building project will teach you humility.

As the friendly person I am, I also wish you a nice day.

We also requested quotes for slightly modified model homes from various general contractors before we had the final approval for our plot of land. As a layperson, I found this very informative and useful in every respect. We didn’t bother our preferred general contractor with too many details too early.

I understand the desire to roughly estimate the budget early on, especially since the land itself usually needs to be financed as well. There are many financial risks, but you have to start somewhere. The original poster is certainly further along now than before. The larger the contingency and the later the budget is finalized, the more likely it is to be adhered to, and you always know more later on.

I would pay particular attention to the situation pointed out by ant11: townhouses built by different companies. I have seen a similar case in my circle of acquaintances (semi-detached house, new next to old), and it completely escalated—time, money, and neighborhood relations.