ᐅ Looking for ceiling and staircase lighting solutions

Mycraft schrieb:
Have Kaiser HaloX boxes installed; that way, you remain flexible and can install any type of spotlights later on…

Even better is to build the ceiling a bit higher and then lower it later. We therefore have a raw ceiling height of 315cm (10 ft 4 in). Especially with spotlights, the exact position is very important and almost impossible to determine perfectly in advance. That’s why I’m not a fan of fixed concrete installation boxes at all.

What are you paying the lighting expert for if they can’t manage to position the few spotlights correctly? People really know how to make a mountain out of a molehill. Your approach optimizes the last 5% and costs ten times as much.

Alex85 schrieb:
Why are you paying the lighting expert if they can’t properly position a few spotlights? You can really make a mountain out of a molehill. Your approach optimizes the last 5% but costs ten times as much.

I didn’t have a lighting planner at the time… it was too late for that! But for the “next” house, I will definitely have one. People completely underestimate the importance of lighting, but it’s absolutely essential. Nothing caused me more stress than lighting. Now I have a solution full of compromises. In hindsight, I would have preferred to spend a few thousand euros and have it done professionally. Of course, for basic lighting fixtures (one per room), you don’t need a plan. But as soon as spotlights come into play, it’s a different story. Most people really use and position spotlights completely incorrectly. It’s pretty awful what you see online and in other people’s homes — they light their living rooms, kitchens, etc. like a fashion store.

Where does your insight come from on how to position spotlights correctly so that it doesn’t look like a clothing store?
If this information becomes widely accepted, it might be possible to avoid that in the future.

Alex85 schrieb:
Where does your insight on the correct positioning of spotlights come from to avoid it looking like a clothing store?
If this information becomes more common, it might be possible to prevent that in the future.

There are professional forums for that. Just take a look. In general, small spotlights (regardless of beam angle) should never be used as primary lighting because they create relatively sharply defined light that doesn’t illuminate the upper part of the room.

Still, we are installing nearly 40 spotlights throughout the house, but not for the main lighting. Instead, we are using high-quality round LED panels that provide very even and soft illumination. In the living room, we are exclusively using indirect lighting with LED strips and are avoiding a traditional lamp. With 23 watts per meter (0.3 watts per inch), this is feasible.

So far, this is all theoretical. In a few months, I’ll know how it actually looks and can share feedback. I’m not sure if my approach is perfect, but I’m putting a lot of effort into it.

Addendum: Just a tip: the "lid Wall" from Serien Lighting is a real hidden gem!!! It delivers strong performance and is 100% indirect light... it only illuminates the wall/ceiling without causing glare. We install 9x dimming via DALI... very smooth and down to 1%.