Hello,
as a newcomer, I’d like to present a challenge.
We have a narrow plot in Bavaria, 12.3m (40 feet) wide, and we are only allowed to build onto the existing party wall. This party wall is located on the south side, so the south side has no windows. My wife and I are planning a small apartment of 80–100m² (860–1,075 ft²), single-story. Our children have left home, so this will be our retirement residence.
For now, our goal is to put our ideas on paper in a way that suits us.
I have already made a rough draft, which definitely needs improvement. We don’t quite like it yet.
The bungalow will be built as a second row house.
On the east side is the front house with an inner courtyard, south side the party wall, west side our garden, and on the north side is a 2m (6.5 feet) high greened wall to the neighbor.
How can I insert a picture of my plan here? I have no link, the image is on my computer.
Okay, I managed to insert the picture. I forgot to mention that the bungalow will be built without a basement. We’ll decide on the exact specifications later; right now, the floor plan is most important to us and we are not happy with it as it is. We need your help because we are stuck and would really appreciate other perspectives.
ma
as a newcomer, I’d like to present a challenge.
We have a narrow plot in Bavaria, 12.3m (40 feet) wide, and we are only allowed to build onto the existing party wall. This party wall is located on the south side, so the south side has no windows. My wife and I are planning a small apartment of 80–100m² (860–1,075 ft²), single-story. Our children have left home, so this will be our retirement residence.
For now, our goal is to put our ideas on paper in a way that suits us.
I have already made a rough draft, which definitely needs improvement. We don’t quite like it yet.
The bungalow will be built as a second row house.
On the east side is the front house with an inner courtyard, south side the party wall, west side our garden, and on the north side is a 2m (6.5 feet) high greened wall to the neighbor.
How can I insert a picture of my plan here? I have no link, the image is on my computer.
Okay, I managed to insert the picture. I forgot to mention that the bungalow will be built without a basement. We’ll decide on the exact specifications later; right now, the floor plan is most important to us and we are not happy with it as it is. We need your help because we are stuck and would really appreciate other perspectives.
ma
I like the approach from @kbt09. Of course, it is "just" one approach, one example of how to proceed using the available information.
I have also given it some thought and considered two offset rectangles to create courtyards. However, I would prefer to position the bedroom more towards the garden side.
Playing around with rooms and possibilities quickly reveals that certain rooms take up too much space along the exterior walls, as @kbt09 already mentioned. Still, a lot of information is missing. For example, the length of the neighboring building, how much distance there is to the northern property, what the plot ratio or floor area ratio is, and so on... Even if the building authority makes statements, a good architect can identify possibilities on a challenging lot that we simply cannot know about.
There also remains the question of whether a guest room or a home office might be appropriate. Should the house be built barrier-free? What is on the other side of the wall? For experimenting and trying out ideas, I definitely prefer a challenge like this over a generic 20 x 30 with a northwest orientation, but I would still like to know all the “rules of the game” before considering ideas that can only cover half of the possibilities.
Regarding the shed-roof house: a walk-in closet would be optional. The hallway could be larger. Instead of the bathroom, place the utility room, put the bedroom where the utility room is now, and locate the bathroom in the center. I could also imagine an atrium along the wall inside the house (bathroom with outdoor area), but the footprint of the house would need to be somewhat larger. But everything is still open at this stage.
I have also given it some thought and considered two offset rectangles to create courtyards. However, I would prefer to position the bedroom more towards the garden side.
Playing around with rooms and possibilities quickly reveals that certain rooms take up too much space along the exterior walls, as @kbt09 already mentioned. Still, a lot of information is missing. For example, the length of the neighboring building, how much distance there is to the northern property, what the plot ratio or floor area ratio is, and so on... Even if the building authority makes statements, a good architect can identify possibilities on a challenging lot that we simply cannot know about.
There also remains the question of whether a guest room or a home office might be appropriate. Should the house be built barrier-free? What is on the other side of the wall? For experimenting and trying out ideas, I definitely prefer a challenge like this over a generic 20 x 30 with a northwest orientation, but I would still like to know all the “rules of the game” before considering ideas that can only cover half of the possibilities.
Regarding the shed-roof house: a walk-in closet would be optional. The hallway could be larger. Instead of the bathroom, place the utility room, put the bedroom where the utility room is now, and locate the bathroom in the center. I could also imagine an atrium along the wall inside the house (bathroom with outdoor area), but the footprint of the house would need to be somewhat larger. But everything is still open at this stage.
Yes, I completely agree with you, ypg, also regarding what you wrote in the other thread. There are still too many missing parameters, especially those that an architect can realistically derive from site plans and similar documents.
For example, having a third room that could also serve as a guest room would make sense to me.
I enjoy planning floor layouts, and I mainly wanted to explore whether it is fundamentally possible to design everything so that every room has windows.
For example, having a third room that could also serve as a guest room would make sense to me.
I enjoy planning floor layouts, and I mainly wanted to explore whether it is fundamentally possible to design everything so that every room has windows.
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frosch00620 Nov 2014 00:50Hello,
I haven’t written for a while because I wanted to clarify the situation with the building authority first—what, how, and exactly where construction is permitted.
Unfortunately, my appointment is not until 16.12.2014.
ma
I haven’t written for a while because I wanted to clarify the situation with the building authority first—what, how, and exactly where construction is permitted.
Unfortunately, my appointment is not until 16.12.2014.
ma
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frosch00620 Dec 2014 15:30Hello,
I visited the building department this week. No definitive statements were made. I was asked to submit some proposals, which will then be reviewed in a team meeting.
The problem is that official residential development is not permitted under this plan. However, there are exceptions, and such an exception might be possible here, depending on the planned project. It should blend harmoniously into the surroundings and be kept simple.
The issue of building on the boundary against the fire wall on the south side was also discussed. They recognize the problems and are not fundamentally opposed to partial setback construction. This means that a U-shape or two staggered rectangles could be an option if presented well. An L-shape is also conceivable, but the longer wing must be built along the fire wall.
Regarding the roof design, they rejected a staggered roof as it appears too chaotic. A flat roof could be considered for this building.
As a rough guideline, a maximum width of 9 meters (30 feet) can be assumed, and the building should align with the neighboring building from the garden side.
Parking options should also be taken into account.
I have the most recent land use plan from the city (1943). I am also attaching various other plans.
The buildings marked in red will remain.
The area marked in green indicates the driveway.
The blue line marks the boundary of the garden; no construction is allowed beyond this line, and construction should also start from this line to provide open space at the front and create a more open feel.
You will probably also notice that the roof of the front building is shown incorrectly; the gable roof is rotated by 90 degrees.

I visited the building department this week. No definitive statements were made. I was asked to submit some proposals, which will then be reviewed in a team meeting.
The problem is that official residential development is not permitted under this plan. However, there are exceptions, and such an exception might be possible here, depending on the planned project. It should blend harmoniously into the surroundings and be kept simple.
The issue of building on the boundary against the fire wall on the south side was also discussed. They recognize the problems and are not fundamentally opposed to partial setback construction. This means that a U-shape or two staggered rectangles could be an option if presented well. An L-shape is also conceivable, but the longer wing must be built along the fire wall.
Regarding the roof design, they rejected a staggered roof as it appears too chaotic. A flat roof could be considered for this building.
As a rough guideline, a maximum width of 9 meters (30 feet) can be assumed, and the building should align with the neighboring building from the garden side.
Parking options should also be taken into account.
I have the most recent land use plan from the city (1943). I am also attaching various other plans.
The buildings marked in red will remain.
The area marked in green indicates the driveway.
The blue line marks the boundary of the garden; no construction is allowed beyond this line, and construction should also start from this line to provide open space at the front and create a more open feel.
You will probably also notice that the roof of the front building is shown incorrectly; the gable roof is rotated by 90 degrees.
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frosch00621 Dec 2014 17:59So, now I’m adding the other photos, which I couldn’t upload yesterday. I first had to change the format.
I’ve attached an aerial photo to give a better overall impression. Our plot is located at the level of the "Google" sign ("Go"gle), red roof with the large dormer facing the garden.
I’ve attached an aerial photo to give a better overall impression. Our plot is located at the level of the "Google" sign ("Go"gle), red roof with the large dormer facing the garden.
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