Hello,
I would like to present my floor plan here for discussion.
Here are the details:
Zoning Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1282 m² (approximately 13,800 sq ft)
Slope: Yes, estimated 2 m to 2.5 m (6.5 ft to 8 ft) from southwest to northeast
Site coverage ratio: —
Floor area ratio: —
Building envelope, building line and boundary: No zoning plan available; preliminary building inquiry clarifies all of this.
Edge development: No zoning plan available; preliminary building inquiry clarifies all of this.
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1
Roof type: Gable roof, 22° pitch, ridge orientation east-west
Architectural style: Bungalow
Orientation: Ridge runs east-west
Maximum heights/limits: No zoning plan available; preliminary building inquiry clarifies all of this.
Other requirements: No zoning plan available; preliminary building inquiry clarifies all of this.
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Bungalow, gable roof 22°, ridge east-west
Basement, number of stories: Yes, one story
Number of occupants, ages: 3 persons (30, 29, 15 months); one child planned
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Ground floor at least 140 m² (1,500 sq ft)
Office: Family use rather than home office
Overnight guests per year: 1–2
Open or closed architecture: Rather closed
Conservative or modern construction: More conservative
Open kitchen with island: Closed kitchen
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: Not initially, as district heating is available
Music/sound wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: Small utility area
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or should not be done
House Design
Who designed it: Do-it-yourself
-Planner from a construction company
-Architect
-Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?
What do you not like? Why? The cloakroom, because there is no space for it
Cost estimate by architect/planner: None asked yet
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: €450,000 (all costs included)
Preferred heating technology: District heating, about 50 m (165 ft) pipeline from in-laws
If you have to give up anything, which details or additions
-You can give up: Some square meters in the right places
-You cannot give up: —
Why did the design turn out the way it did? For example:
Standard design from the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it in your opinion especially good or bad?
The design developed this way. The good part is that everything needed for daily life is on one level; the disadvantage is the cloakroom situation.
I am still working on the basement layout. Rooms planned are office, utility room, heating room, workshop (hobby: model building), storage, possibly a party room.
I would appreciate your opinions and suggestions.
If you have questions or uncertainties (there are surely many), please feel free to ask.
Thank you and best regards,
Benedikt
I would like to present my floor plan here for discussion.
Here are the details:
Zoning Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1282 m² (approximately 13,800 sq ft)
Slope: Yes, estimated 2 m to 2.5 m (6.5 ft to 8 ft) from southwest to northeast
Site coverage ratio: —
Floor area ratio: —
Building envelope, building line and boundary: No zoning plan available; preliminary building inquiry clarifies all of this.
Edge development: No zoning plan available; preliminary building inquiry clarifies all of this.
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1
Roof type: Gable roof, 22° pitch, ridge orientation east-west
Architectural style: Bungalow
Orientation: Ridge runs east-west
Maximum heights/limits: No zoning plan available; preliminary building inquiry clarifies all of this.
Other requirements: No zoning plan available; preliminary building inquiry clarifies all of this.
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Bungalow, gable roof 22°, ridge east-west
Basement, number of stories: Yes, one story
Number of occupants, ages: 3 persons (30, 29, 15 months); one child planned
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Ground floor at least 140 m² (1,500 sq ft)
Office: Family use rather than home office
Overnight guests per year: 1–2
Open or closed architecture: Rather closed
Conservative or modern construction: More conservative
Open kitchen with island: Closed kitchen
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: Not initially, as district heating is available
Music/sound wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: Small utility area
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or should not be done
House Design
Who designed it: Do-it-yourself
-Planner from a construction company
-Architect
-Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?
What do you not like? Why? The cloakroom, because there is no space for it
Cost estimate by architect/planner: None asked yet
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: €450,000 (all costs included)
Preferred heating technology: District heating, about 50 m (165 ft) pipeline from in-laws
If you have to give up anything, which details or additions
-You can give up: Some square meters in the right places
-You cannot give up: —
Why did the design turn out the way it did? For example:
Standard design from the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it in your opinion especially good or bad?
The design developed this way. The good part is that everything needed for daily life is on one level; the disadvantage is the cloakroom situation.
I am still working on the basement layout. Rooms planned are office, utility room, heating room, workshop (hobby: model building), storage, possibly a party room.
I would appreciate your opinions and suggestions.
If you have questions or uncertainties (there are surely many), please feel free to ask.
Thank you and best regards,
Benedikt
My two cents. If there is a basement, then a storage room is unnecessary. Move the guest toilet a bit over and make it slightly wider, as well as the entrance. Doors should be 1 meter wide (about 39 inches), suitable for a walker later on. Whenever possible, don’t place doors directly against the wall to allow for usable space. The living room in the southwest corner—cut off the corner to create a small outdoor area for enjoying a Cuba Libre in the evening sun. Roof pitch of 25 degrees (about 14°) is standard, or 30 degrees (about 17°). The pantry should have a door leading outside. The parking space should ideally be located there as well.
P.S.: You can tell from the dimensions that you have already looked into wall thicknesses, but not yet into brick/block sizes, modular planning grids, or construction dimensions. Not a problem, but it’s noticeable ;-)
That’s your standard, and/or that of suppliers X and Y. 22 or 28 degrees is also quite common.
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Nordlys schrieb:
Roof pitch, 25 degrees is standard, or 30.
That’s your standard, and/or that of suppliers X and Y. 22 or 28 degrees is also quite common.
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@11ant
I have set the angle at 22°, let’s see if it stays that way. I also fear there will be some cutting back.
What are the typical planning grids, if one can answer that so generally?
@Nordlys
The doors are 1 meter (3.3 feet) wide. Eliminating the storage room is something to consider; that would also ease the wardrobe situation.
The door to the outside from the pantry doesn’t make sense in this plan because it would be on the east side and the garage is on the north side, so no path is saved there. I have a terrace for the Cuba.
The doors that open away from the wall will be removed, thanks.
Thank you all for your opinions!!
I have set the angle at 22°, let’s see if it stays that way. I also fear there will be some cutting back.
What are the typical planning grids, if one can answer that so generally?
@Nordlys
The doors are 1 meter (3.3 feet) wide. Eliminating the storage room is something to consider; that would also ease the wardrobe situation.
The door to the outside from the pantry doesn’t make sense in this plan because it would be on the east side and the garage is on the north side, so no path is saved there. I have a terrace for the Cuba.
The doors that open away from the wall will be removed, thanks.
Thank you all for your opinions!!
Overall, I would reduce the edge length by about 1 meter (3 feet) or approximately 30 square meters (320 square feet) of floor space, while keeping the proportions of the room sizes roughly the same. A three-square-meter (32 square feet) guest toilet is quite large. I would make the pantry wider and less deep, creating a walk-in closet on the bedroom side.
Yes, in residential construction, you can do that. There are two common planning grids.
One for masonry construction:
This is based on the dimensions of bricks and uses increments of one “head.” One head (the narrow side of the brick) equals half a brick or one-eighth of a smooth meter. After deducting a 1 cm (0.4 inch) mortar joint, the wall thicknesses result in 11.5 or 24 cm (4.5 or 9.5 inches), and by rounding one and a half heads, 17.5 cm (7 inches). Although smaller-format bricks and mortared joints have become less common, this grid remains practical and avoids the need to cut bricks into special sizes.
And one for timber panel prefabrication:
Here, a regular spacing between the studs of 62.5 cm (24.6 inches) has become a quasi-industry standard for structural reasons. This grid has evolved toward almost any intermediate dimensions, but the standard spacing is generally maintained. However, sticking to full increments usually applies more to exterior walls, rather than interior walls, which can be more flexible. In “modern timber framing” with exposed frames, even a rounded dimension of 120 cm (47 inches) is used.
Common door widths are 101 cm (40 inches) for entrance doors, 88.5 cm (35 inches) for room doors, 76 cm (30 inches) for storage rooms and small bathrooms, and down to 63.5 cm (25 inches) for tight guest toilets. These standards date back to before senior-friendly design considerations; today, an additional grid step is not uncommon. This means, for example, a front door width of 113.5 cm (45 inches).
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Mou0815 schrieb:
What are the usual planning grids if this can be answered so generally?
Yes, in residential construction, you can do that. There are two common planning grids.
One for masonry construction:
This is based on the dimensions of bricks and uses increments of one “head.” One head (the narrow side of the brick) equals half a brick or one-eighth of a smooth meter. After deducting a 1 cm (0.4 inch) mortar joint, the wall thicknesses result in 11.5 or 24 cm (4.5 or 9.5 inches), and by rounding one and a half heads, 17.5 cm (7 inches). Although smaller-format bricks and mortared joints have become less common, this grid remains practical and avoids the need to cut bricks into special sizes.
And one for timber panel prefabrication:
Here, a regular spacing between the studs of 62.5 cm (24.6 inches) has become a quasi-industry standard for structural reasons. This grid has evolved toward almost any intermediate dimensions, but the standard spacing is generally maintained. However, sticking to full increments usually applies more to exterior walls, rather than interior walls, which can be more flexible. In “modern timber framing” with exposed frames, even a rounded dimension of 120 cm (47 inches) is used.
Mou0815 schrieb:
The doors are 1 meter wide.
Common door widths are 101 cm (40 inches) for entrance doors, 88.5 cm (35 inches) for room doors, 76 cm (30 inches) for storage rooms and small bathrooms, and down to 63.5 cm (25 inches) for tight guest toilets. These standards date back to before senior-friendly design considerations; today, an additional grid step is not uncommon. This means, for example, a front door width of 113.5 cm (45 inches).
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https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Thank you for your explanations! We want to build with solid construction, I forgot to mention that.
I reduced the width by 1 meter (3.3 feet) from west to east, and from north to south I want to keep certain dimensions, so on the south side I could only reduce by 0.25 meters (10 inches). We are not interested in having a walk-in closet, but thanks for the suggestion!
Regarding the doors, a 113.5 cm (44.7 inches) front door and 101 cm (39.8 inches) interior doors are a good solution. Let’s see how soon I can get the changes on paper.
I reduced the width by 1 meter (3.3 feet) from west to east, and from north to south I want to keep certain dimensions, so on the south side I could only reduce by 0.25 meters (10 inches). We are not interested in having a walk-in closet, but thanks for the suggestion!
Regarding the doors, a 113.5 cm (44.7 inches) front door and 101 cm (39.8 inches) interior doors are a good solution. Let’s see how soon I can get the changes on paper.
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