ᐅ Banvel M or Other Products for Controlling Dandelions and Clover – Bird-Friendly

Created on: 28 May 2019 11:15
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Illo77
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Illo77
28 May 2019 11:15
Hello everyone,

Does anyone have experience with Compo Banvel M? My lawn is mostly dandelions rather than grass, which is likely because there is a nature reserve meadow full of dandelions right behind our property. It’s wonderfully yellow in spring, but when the wind blows the wrong way, the seeds naturally drift over to us. We sprayed once about two years ago. This year, I planned to dig out the dandelions, but after working on only about 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) of my 400 sqm (4,305 sq ft) lawn over two days and filling three wheelbarrows with pulled weeds, it left more holes than anything else, and of course, you can’t remove every root completely.

We also have many birds like blackbirds hopping around on the lawn, pulling earthworms from the soil. If I spray in the evening, it probably isn’t good for them when they walk over the treated area and pull worms out of the ground while they slide along soaked dandelion leaves, right? Unfortunately, there is no information about this on Compo’s website or the packaging—only a few species like certain spiders are mentioned.

Do you know of any alternatives that are safe for birds, assuming Banvel M is harmful to them?
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Müllerin
29 May 2019 07:28
I think it’s great that you want to use fewer chemicals, because even when something is labeled “bee-friendly,” it’s still a toxin.

Sorry in case you don’t want to read this – if you like flowering meadows, why not create one yourself?
I also find just dandelions a bit boring – a mix of the plants that the treatment is supposed to eliminate looks much more appealing. And then you only need to mow 1-2 times a year. That gives you plenty of free time to enjoy your garden.

Or do you need lawn space as a play area for children? Then you could alternate mowing the area.

Otherwise, I only see the option of planting a dense, tall hedge towards the nature reserve meadow to minimize the number of seeds blowing over. That way, you have a better chance when selectively removing unwanted plants.
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fragg
29 May 2019 08:38
Read the Wiki article on glyphosate. Among the chemicals, it is probably one of the least harmful. Alternatively, lawn mower robots can be used. By cutting 2-3 times per week, they help control the weeds...
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Illo77
12 Jun 2019 16:07
Hello

Well, here in NBG, many people use robotic lawn mowers, including my parents. However, dandelions and similar weeds grow low to the ground, making them inaccessible to the mower. Many expected a lot from these devices, but I think they cut the grass too short, which prevents the lawn from spreading and taking space away from the weeds.
Lucrezia12 Jun 2019 21:22
Even though it is initially tedious, I would continue to dig out dandelions and then plant other wild herbs you prefer instead: usually, nature finds its own balance over time.
I experienced this in my own 700 square meter (7,535 square feet) garden, except that in my case, pennycress was more dominant than dandelions.

Regarding glyphosate: well, Wikipedia is not the ultimate truth (the great idea of an independent platform has long since died). Another indication is when glyphosate is dismissed as harmless...