I am currently planning my house, which will be a "Tuscan-style house."
A builder has suggested leaving the bedrooms on the first floor open to the roof, saying it makes the space feel larger and allows for an additional window in the roof.
My question is, is this option offered mainly because it is more cost-effective, and how does it affect heating costs with open ceilings? Also, isn’t installing a window in a shed roof somewhat challenging, for example, when it comes to cleaning?
Thanks for your answers
Buddy2014
A builder has suggested leaving the bedrooms on the first floor open to the roof, saying it makes the space feel larger and allows for an additional window in the roof.
My question is, is this option offered mainly because it is more cost-effective, and how does it affect heating costs with open ceilings? Also, isn’t installing a window in a shed roof somewhat challenging, for example, when it comes to cleaning?
Thanks for your answers
Buddy2014
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Wanderdüne23 Aug 2014 12:45buddy2014 schrieb:
But I would like to keep 2 bedrooms on the ground floor (age-appropriate) As drawn, this suggests young, dynamic sports students with an ascetic lifestyle...
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buddy201423 Aug 2014 14:39Explanation
I would like to build a two-family house, meaning an apartment for me and my husband with a bedroom and a bathroom with a shower on the ground floor (GF), as well as a guest room with a bathroom with a shower on the first floor (FF).
For the "younger generation" on the first floor (FF), there should be a master bedroom with a bathroom and dressing room, as well as two children’s bedrooms with one bathroom with a shower.
I would like to build a two-family house, meaning an apartment for me and my husband with a bedroom and a bathroom with a shower on the ground floor (GF), as well as a guest room with a bathroom with a shower on the first floor (FF).
For the "younger generation" on the first floor (FF), there should be a master bedroom with a bathroom and dressing room, as well as two children’s bedrooms with one bathroom with a shower.
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buddy201423 Aug 2014 14:40Wanderdüne schrieb:
As depicted, it refers to young, dynamic sports students with a tendency toward asceticism... What do you mean by that?
buddy2014 schrieb:
To explain:
I would like to build a two-generation house, meaning an apartment for me and my husband with a bedroom and a shower bathroom on the ground floor, as well as a guest room with a shower bathroom on the first floor.
For the “younger generation” on the first floor: one master bedroom with bathroom and walk-in closet, plus two children’s rooms with one shower bathroom.Do I understand the design correctly that you (the “older generation”) want separate bedrooms? Each with a single bed? Well, everyone to their own taste. But are two bathrooms really necessary? The space seems so tight that I don’t think living there will be enjoyable. Also, I doubt that the preferred accessibility can actually be achieved with this floor plan. Additionally, it would bother me if a children’s room from another family (even if they are relatives) is located directly above my living room. The guest would have two bathrooms to choose from: one downstairs, the guest toilet, and one upstairs. There is no bathtub for the residents.
For the younger generation, I imagine the living room will be difficult to furnish. It kind of feels like a townhouse, but townhouses usually have a separate dining area—which this design does not. I would make the stairwell more open to the living area and kitchen, with fewer walls.
For the “older” generation, I wouldn’t mind the kitchen and dining layout if by “older” you mean around 70 years old, since at that age people probably prefer less effort in cooking.
To be honest, I’m not sure what to make of your floor plan. I rarely see one so complicated, maze-like, and (in my opinion) impractical.
What Wanderdüne probably means is that the two bedrooms and bathrooms on the ground floor are far from age-appropriate. With a walker or wheelchair, it will be nearly impossible to access the bedrooms or either of the bathrooms! Even for a healthy person without mobility restrictions, the space is very tight.
Do you have separate bedrooms and have never seen each other naked? Otherwise, why wouldn’t one shared bathroom and bedroom be enough? And the walk-in closet is more of a joke than suitable for aging in place. I don’t know if you’ll still be able to put on your pants or shoes standing up without falling when you get older. Age-appropriate living means having at least 100cm (40 inches) of clearance space around all sides of the bed, a chair or armchair for dressing, and a wardrobe in the bedroom so you don’t have to cover long distances. The bathroom should ideally have both a bathtub and a shower (or at least a large shower with a seat). There should also be seating and grab bars to prevent anyone from falling while drying off. There should be enough space for a second person as well because at some point, you might not be able to use the bathroom on your own.
And upstairs? There’s bound to be conflicts between the kids. Why does Child 1 get a walk-in closet and an en-suite shower, while Child 2 only has a very awkwardly shaped bedroom? Neither corridor upstairs has natural light—ok, you can live with that, but for me, that’s a deal breaker.
If you want to build a two-generation house, I would suggest designing it so the “older generation” lives on the ground floor and the “younger generation” lives upstairs. This would save you a lot of money (on bathrooms and stairs) and definitely be more suitable for aging in place. So, start over from scratch...
buddy2014 schrieb:
What do you mean by that?
What Wanderdüne probably means is that the two bedrooms and bathrooms on the ground floor are far from age-appropriate. With a walker or wheelchair, it will be nearly impossible to access the bedrooms or either of the bathrooms! Even for a healthy person without mobility restrictions, the space is very tight.
Do you have separate bedrooms and have never seen each other naked? Otherwise, why wouldn’t one shared bathroom and bedroom be enough? And the walk-in closet is more of a joke than suitable for aging in place. I don’t know if you’ll still be able to put on your pants or shoes standing up without falling when you get older. Age-appropriate living means having at least 100cm (40 inches) of clearance space around all sides of the bed, a chair or armchair for dressing, and a wardrobe in the bedroom so you don’t have to cover long distances. The bathroom should ideally have both a bathtub and a shower (or at least a large shower with a seat). There should also be seating and grab bars to prevent anyone from falling while drying off. There should be enough space for a second person as well because at some point, you might not be able to use the bathroom on your own.
And upstairs? There’s bound to be conflicts between the kids. Why does Child 1 get a walk-in closet and an en-suite shower, while Child 2 only has a very awkwardly shaped bedroom? Neither corridor upstairs has natural light—ok, you can live with that, but for me, that’s a deal breaker.
If you want to build a two-generation house, I would suggest designing it so the “older generation” lives on the ground floor and the “younger generation” lives upstairs. This would save you a lot of money (on bathrooms and stairs) and definitely be more suitable for aging in place. So, start over from scratch...
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Wanderdüne23 Aug 2014 16:58The lack of age-appropriate design has already been addressed, but I cannot understand how the person given the requirements developed this draft.
First: A true multigenerational house should encourage more interaction between generations than this design does. It only shows two semi-detached units with staggered layouts and a shared entrance.
Within each living unit, there are also shortcomings on their own. I find the parents' bedroom for the younger generation particularly problematic. It is a small walk-through room, so the person sleeping will always be disturbed by someone getting dressed or using the bathroom.
You should furnish every room—that will make the problems clear.
WD
First: A true multigenerational house should encourage more interaction between generations than this design does. It only shows two semi-detached units with staggered layouts and a shared entrance.
Within each living unit, there are also shortcomings on their own. I find the parents' bedroom for the younger generation particularly problematic. It is a small walk-through room, so the person sleeping will always be disturbed by someone getting dressed or using the bathroom.
You should furnish every room—that will make the problems clear.
WD
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