ᐅ Smart Home without switches? P.Hue, Home Assistant, Homematic wired IP
Created on: 1 Apr 2023 08:54
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Audiobampa
Hello,
I’m currently considering the electrical installation in a house with two holiday apartments. KNX is too expensive... I’m thinking about using two control panels to operate the apartments... Roller shutters, lighting, Philips Hue is great because of the colors and the little light accents you can place everywhere...
The idea would be to install a distribution system with Homematic IP Wired... and run Home Assistant on a Raspberry Pi... I would use iPads in the apartments to control everything smartly from two locations within the apartments... lighting scenes, roller shutters, heating... by the way, are there smart air conditioners or heaters that can be integrated into the system? ... and Powerline communication (PLCs) in the distribution cabinet...
This is roughly how I imagine it... Has anyone already implemented something similar or have tips, etc.?
Regards, Bampa
I’m currently considering the electrical installation in a house with two holiday apartments. KNX is too expensive... I’m thinking about using two control panels to operate the apartments... Roller shutters, lighting, Philips Hue is great because of the colors and the little light accents you can place everywhere...
The idea would be to install a distribution system with Homematic IP Wired... and run Home Assistant on a Raspberry Pi... I would use iPads in the apartments to control everything smartly from two locations within the apartments... lighting scenes, roller shutters, heating... by the way, are there smart air conditioners or heaters that can be integrated into the system? ... and Powerline communication (PLCs) in the distribution cabinet...
This is roughly how I imagine it... Has anyone already implemented something similar or have tips, etc.?
Regards, Bampa
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Audiobampa9 Apr 2023 22:47Well, at the moment I'm thinking of building the control cabinet myself… I just need to find out a few things first….
What I’m interested in regarding the integration: You first configure the individual systems, for example Hue… You create a scene for the living room with the 6 lamps set to a certain color.
If I now connect IO Broker with Hue, will I be able to see the living room there again so I can simply turn it on?
Or do I have to do the work manually again there…?
The same applies to Homematic… if I already have links set up so that a virtual switch raises blinds 1-6, named “Living Room Blinds,” will I find these parameters or what I created there in IO Broker again, or do I have to do everything from scratch?
I will probably build a test board beforehand anyway….
Speaking of the control cabinet, what measurements actually need to be done during acceptance testing?
Insulation, resistance, RCD (residual current device) trip, etc.? I’ve been out of the loop for too long…..
And no, I love craftsmanship and have an affinity for it, and fair work deserves fair pay…. On the topic of trust… I received and commissioned a quote for the shell construction… there was an item for crane setup and installation… well, I thought, he probably knows what he’s doing…
The house was demolished and companies commissioned until the crane operator said he couldn’t reach the spot….
As you can see, even the professionals don’t know everything… maybe doing some research like here and gaining some knowledge of the subject would have really helped 😉
free@home doesn’t seem to have an interface with IO Broker… that would be a shame….
What I’m interested in regarding the integration: You first configure the individual systems, for example Hue… You create a scene for the living room with the 6 lamps set to a certain color.
If I now connect IO Broker with Hue, will I be able to see the living room there again so I can simply turn it on?
Or do I have to do the work manually again there…?
The same applies to Homematic… if I already have links set up so that a virtual switch raises blinds 1-6, named “Living Room Blinds,” will I find these parameters or what I created there in IO Broker again, or do I have to do everything from scratch?
I will probably build a test board beforehand anyway….
Speaking of the control cabinet, what measurements actually need to be done during acceptance testing?
Insulation, resistance, RCD (residual current device) trip, etc.? I’ve been out of the loop for too long…..
And no, I love craftsmanship and have an affinity for it, and fair work deserves fair pay…. On the topic of trust… I received and commissioned a quote for the shell construction… there was an item for crane setup and installation… well, I thought, he probably knows what he’s doing…
The house was demolished and companies commissioned until the crane operator said he couldn’t reach the spot….
As you can see, even the professionals don’t know everything… maybe doing some research like here and gaining some knowledge of the subject would have really helped 😉
free@home doesn’t seem to have an interface with IO Broker… that would be a shame….
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Audiobampa11 Apr 2023 13:49So, the scenes and lamps under Hue are transferred to IO Broker, and the same applies to the linked connections via Homematic. This is already good because it means you don’t have to do the work twice.
For the inspection of the distribution board, it seems possible to hire a specialized company.
When it comes to lighting, it is important to separate the bridges from each other, and there are settings available to do this. This separation is not necessarily required with Homematic. For planning purposes, this means that the Hue Bridges need to be installed inside the apartments, while the CCU3 can probably stay in or near the distribution board.
The windows should be equipped with contacts, as should the door.
Using iPads is also possible; with IO Broker, you can apparently create separate interfaces for each apartment that contain only the control elements for the devices in that apartment. In this respect, this could be a solution that works without having to install physical switches.
For the inspection of the distribution board, it seems possible to hire a specialized company.
When it comes to lighting, it is important to separate the bridges from each other, and there are settings available to do this. This separation is not necessarily required with Homematic. For planning purposes, this means that the Hue Bridges need to be installed inside the apartments, while the CCU3 can probably stay in or near the distribution board.
The windows should be equipped with contacts, as should the door.
Using iPads is also possible; with IO Broker, you can apparently create separate interfaces for each apartment that contain only the control elements for the devices in that apartment. In this respect, this could be a solution that works without having to install physical switches.
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Audiobampa14 Apr 2023 10:50One more addition: the iPad solution is also off the table. There are excellent NS panel displays from Sonoff available for a very low price that can be installed in a flush-mounted box. The firmware is rewritten so that they can be used as control touch panels. I have ordered the first one for testing. Is anyone already using these for smart home control?
We will be offering a system originally based on OpenHAB and an MQTT broker running on industrial hardware (Controllinos and SmartManager, etc.). However, it has since been significantly developed and transitioned into proprietary software. This system can do everything! Yes, really ;-) It has also had a very skilled programmer working part-time on it for a year now. Heat pumps, controlled residential ventilation, lighting, roller shutters—anything is possible. Weather stations, electric vehicle chargers, photovoltaics, and more are also optimally controllable (perfect energy management). Bus wiring or star topology connections are supported; KNX or Loxone integration works as well. Wireless lights of any brand or protocol are compatible. If something isn’t supported, it is integrated through reverse engineering. The system is offered as a server with interfaces, including support, for a one-time fee plus a monthly charge.
Unfortunately, the original poster will never become our customer. To be honest, we wouldn’t want this customer as they would likely be very demanding.
But with enough time, they can probably implement this themselves, as others have managed to do.
Unfortunately, the original poster will never become our customer. To be honest, we wouldn’t want this customer as they would likely be very demanding.
But with enough time, they can probably implement this themselves, as others have managed to do.
i_b_n_a_n schrieb:
So, we will be offering a system like this in the future...Given the current development speed and available manpower, I am estimating approximately 6–12 months (half a year to one year)...Similar topics