ᐅ Experiences with ground-source heat pumps using a borehole and water as the heat transfer medium?

Created on: 1 Feb 2023 23:05
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NilsHolgersson
Hello everyone,

we are about to build a house (key details below). So far, a ground-to-air heat pump is planned. However, the more I read about it, the more doubtful I become whether it is the right choice: numerous reports about air-to-water heat pumps breaking down in freezing temperatures (when you actually need them), malfunctioning defrost cycles of the outdoor unit, noise emissions from the outdoor unit, and a maximum lifespan of 15-20 years.

Therefore, I am considering a ground-to-water heat pump as an alternative. Our plot is rather small, so drilling is the only option. I am aware of the disadvantages like initial and drilling costs and the requirement for a building permit/planning permission, and I accept these. In the end, I need a system that works reliably without breaking down in winter conditions (otherwise, the whole family has to wait for a week or more in a cold house until repairs are done), that operates relatively quietly, and possibly lasts a long time. A passive cooling function in summer is also attractive.

These are my considerations, now the questions:
1. Does anyone have experience with ground-to-water heat pumps with probes? Especially whether they actually work without problems?
2. The compressor would then be located in the basement along with the pump – how quiet is it?
3. Where is the drilling usually done for the probes – directly under the house or beside it? Regarding the timing – should this be completed before construction starts or can it be done in parallel next to it?
4. Approximately how long does the approval process take (possibly including water law permits)?

Key details of the house:
  • Semi-detached house, solid construction, not a KfW-standard house (EnEV 2016)
  • Two full floors plus basement, ground floor + upper floor 68 + 68 m² (732 + 732 sq ft), plus about 30 m² (320 sq ft) of heated basement area
  • Underfloor heating, controlled ventilation system (mechanical ventilation) with heat recovery and enthalpy heat exchanger
  • No photovoltaic system planned primarily

Thank you very much!
Best regards
Nils
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NilsHolgersson
2 Feb 2023 18:07
Many thanks for your opinions!
Two more questions:
1. Is the ground source heat pump sufficient for adequate hot water (drinking water) heating, or is something extra needed?
2. What about your soil conditions regarding regeneration? In our case, it’s mostly clay and quite waterproof—which wouldn’t be ideal for the heat exchanger probe...
AxelH.2 Feb 2023 18:34
NilsHolgersson schrieb:

Thank you very much for your opinions!
Two more questions:
1. Is the brine-water heat pump sufficient for proper domestic hot water heating? Or is something additional needed?
2. How are your soil conditions? Regarding regeneration: we have mostly clay, which is completely waterproof – not ideal for the ground probe...

Regarding 1: That is more than sufficient. Our heat pump maintains 300 liters (79 gallons).
2. In our case: mostly shale down to 70 meters (230 feet).
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Fuchur
2 Feb 2023 21:08
NilsHolgersson schrieb:

1. Is a brine-to-water heat pump sufficient for adequate domestic hot water heating? Or do you need something additional?

Of course, the drilling depth is adjusted according to the extraction capacity and the heat pump’s output. There are brine heat pumps designed for entire residential complexes.
NilsHolgersson schrieb:

2. How are your soil conditions? Regarding regeneration: in our case, it is mostly clay and quite waterproof – which wouldn’t be ideal for the probe...

The “worse” the soil, the lower the extraction capacity per meter, so deeper drilling is required. It’s not a question of feasibility but only a financial matter, as each meter drilled adds cost.

It is especially important to install only one borehole if at all possible. Some companies avoid drilling deeper than 100 meters (330 feet) due to mining laws and the need for permits, but by doing so, you avoid many potential problems associated with connecting multiple boreholes, such as ventilation issues or flow behavior.
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k-man2021
2 Feb 2023 21:57
I know you mentioned that your plot is small... but I still want to bring up the ring trench collector. It is an uncomplicated and cost-effective surface collector with good heat extraction performance, especially in clay soil. If you’re interested, just search for the term online.
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WilderSueden
2 Feb 2023 23:17
NilsHolgersson schrieb:

2. How are your soil conditions? Regarding regeneration: here we mostly have clay, which is completely watertight – that wouldn’t be ideal for the probe...

I have no idea what it’s like at 80m (262 ft), but here the top layer is also clay. However, the soil changes deeper down.

Several numbered sample bags with gray concrete/rock samples on a wooden table in front of a red wall.
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sergutsh
3 Feb 2023 07:38
The Federal Geothermal Association or the Geological Services of the federal states provide maps showing the heat extraction capacity/thermal conductivity of the soils, which are sufficiently reliable for a preliminary assessment.
In our case, the rock extended almost completely throughout the entire depth.