Hello,
we would like to build an accessible bungalow for our parents. Our architect has already created a second design, but we are still not completely satisfied with it. More on that later.
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 562m² (6046 ft²)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio 0.3
Floor area ratio 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary see site plan
Edge development as in NRW (North Rhine-Westphalia)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof shape
Architectural style
Orientation -
Maximum heights/limits -
Other requirements -
Client Requirements
Architectural style, roof shape, building type: Bungalow with hipped roof and double garage
Basement, storeys -
Number of occupants, age: 2, 65
Space requirement on ground floor and upper floor: Ground floor only, but with fixed concrete stairs to attic as storage
Office: family use or home office? Hobby room for crafting / ironing
Guests per year: 0
Open or closed layout: rather closed
Conservative or modern construction -
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Separate kitchen with table for 3 people
Number of dining seats: 6 in dining room
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse -
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you particularly like? Why? -
What do you not like? The floor area of 120m² (1290 ft²) is actually too small. Especially the living room with the sofa placed in the room is not appealing and takes up a lot of space.
Personal budget for the house including fittings: not relevant for now
Preferred heating system: heat pump
Why is the design the way it is now?
Second draft by the architect
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Desired is a bungalow with double garage. Separate kitchen with enough work surface, small pantry. Living and dining rooms. An extra room for crafting/ironing or later use as a bedroom for a caregiver. Bathroom to be barrier-free with bathtub (the bathtub does not need to be barrier-free, only the shower, toilet and sink). My parents want a terrace facing east to enjoy the morning sun while having breakfast; natural shade from the house at midday and evening would be great.
I have attached the site plan and current floor plan.
What ideas do you have to optimize the house design? I have also considered integrating the garage partly into the house to possibly gain more space. Or, in the second plan, placing the kitchen crosswise and moving the living room further back. This would create more space on the lower level, but the question is how best to use it. Moreover, the pantry would no longer be integrated.
we would like to build an accessible bungalow for our parents. Our architect has already created a second design, but we are still not completely satisfied with it. More on that later.
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 562m² (6046 ft²)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio 0.3
Floor area ratio 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary see site plan
Edge development as in NRW (North Rhine-Westphalia)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof shape
Architectural style
Orientation -
Maximum heights/limits -
Other requirements -
Client Requirements
Architectural style, roof shape, building type: Bungalow with hipped roof and double garage
Basement, storeys -
Number of occupants, age: 2, 65
Space requirement on ground floor and upper floor: Ground floor only, but with fixed concrete stairs to attic as storage
Office: family use or home office? Hobby room for crafting / ironing
Guests per year: 0
Open or closed layout: rather closed
Conservative or modern construction -
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Separate kitchen with table for 3 people
Number of dining seats: 6 in dining room
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse -
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you particularly like? Why? -
What do you not like? The floor area of 120m² (1290 ft²) is actually too small. Especially the living room with the sofa placed in the room is not appealing and takes up a lot of space.
Personal budget for the house including fittings: not relevant for now
Preferred heating system: heat pump
Why is the design the way it is now?
Second draft by the architect
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Desired is a bungalow with double garage. Separate kitchen with enough work surface, small pantry. Living and dining rooms. An extra room for crafting/ironing or later use as a bedroom for a caregiver. Bathroom to be barrier-free with bathtub (the bathtub does not need to be barrier-free, only the shower, toilet and sink). My parents want a terrace facing east to enjoy the morning sun while having breakfast; natural shade from the house at midday and evening would be great.
I have attached the site plan and current floor plan.
What ideas do you have to optimize the house design? I have also considered integrating the garage partly into the house to possibly gain more space. Or, in the second plan, placing the kitchen crosswise and moving the living room further back. This would create more space on the lower level, but the question is how best to use it. Moreover, the pantry would no longer be integrated.
The Bungalow 139 by Hanse Haus is completely barrier-free. You can also find a bungalow under Zero Barrier Barrier-free residential planning.
About the windows
There is not enough natural daylight when eyesight worsens. How many older people sit by the window with curtains drawn?
Your parents still seem quite mobile.
Terrace roofing
More windows
Only one dining area
Fewer rooms, for example, remove the dressing room
A shower located behind the door is suboptimal if a walker or care service is needed
Power outlets at light switch height
I don’t like the room layout. The staircase is too prominent
About the windows
There is not enough natural daylight when eyesight worsens. How many older people sit by the window with curtains drawn?
Your parents still seem quite mobile.
Terrace roofing
More windows
Only one dining area
Fewer rooms, for example, remove the dressing room
A shower located behind the door is suboptimal if a walker or care service is needed
Power outlets at light switch height
I don’t like the room layout. The staircase is too prominent
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Stefan6742257817 Dec 2022 10:29Maybe your parents should give this some thought? Please, dear parents, consider it!
Then please plan accordingly. Mom, please have it planned.
Building a house doesn’t necessarily mean everything has to be on one level. Please pass this on…
Then the plot has a good orientation.
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The only reason my parents want to build is so that everything is on one level and more accessible as they get older. Currently, they can’t even use the bathroom on the ground floor. That’s why a bungalow is planned.
Regarding the south/west orientation: my parents have no particular reason for or against it. Do you have a floor plan suggestion with a south/west orientation, even though the terrace is accessible from the kitchen on the east side?
And the covered terrace, sure, but how with the narrow building envelope?
That’s not what my parents mean. But everyone is aware that large windows covering big areas mean much more work than a few small windows.
That doesn’t mean they won’t have floor-to-ceiling windows in the living/dining area — those are included in the plan. The point was to clarify, though that might not have come across, that my parents don’t prioritize that and other aspects like a separate kitchen, garage for cars, etc., are more important to them.
Yes, unfortunately, the garage is too narrow. I’ve mentioned that. But apparently, the building plot doesn’t allow for more space.
There have been several critiques of the floor plan. That’s exactly why I asked here. My parents are not happy with the current plan but don’t have ideas of how to improve it. So the question is whether someone here can draw a better floor plan based on the suggestions given.
Then please plan accordingly. Mom, please have it planned.
Building a house doesn’t necessarily mean everything has to be on one level. Please pass this on…
Then the plot has a good orientation.
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The only reason my parents want to build is so that everything is on one level and more accessible as they get older. Currently, they can’t even use the bathroom on the ground floor. That’s why a bungalow is planned.
Regarding the south/west orientation: my parents have no particular reason for or against it. Do you have a floor plan suggestion with a south/west orientation, even though the terrace is accessible from the kitchen on the east side?
And the covered terrace, sure, but how with the narrow building envelope?
ypg schrieb:
Well, without windows no living space. Maybe pass on the thought that ownership, as well as renting, comes with responsibilities. Generally maintenance, but also preserving value. Or do your parents aim to avoid any cleaning at all? Please also pass on the question.
That’s not what my parents mean. But everyone is aware that large windows covering big areas mean much more work than a few small windows.
That doesn’t mean they won’t have floor-to-ceiling windows in the living/dining area — those are included in the plan. The point was to clarify, though that might not have come across, that my parents don’t prioritize that and other aspects like a separate kitchen, garage for cars, etc., are more important to them.
kbt09 schrieb:
Two cars and a motorcycle? What kind of cars are those? The garage is quite narrow. And are two cars really necessary? What about bicycles?
Maybe also consider combining dining and kitchen into one room, and having living/TV/sofa as a separate room. That could save the second dining area option.
Yes, unfortunately, the garage is too narrow. I’ve mentioned that. But apparently, the building plot doesn’t allow for more space.
There have been several critiques of the floor plan. That’s exactly why I asked here. My parents are not happy with the current plan but don’t have ideas of how to improve it. So the question is whether someone here can draw a better floor plan based on the suggestions given.
haydee schrieb:
The Bungalow 139 from Hanse Haus is completely accessible. Yes, but more to illustrate accessible design rather than as a direct alternative to the current floor plan here.
haydee schrieb:
At Nullbarriere Accessible residential planning also features a bungalow Full-text search aid: The bungalow is the most commonly built house type for people with mobility limitations. The disadvantage is the large footprint on the plot, meaning a sufficiently sized lot is required. The client is a wheelchair user. A large garage was designed, connected to the house by a covered walkway. Benefit: weather protection and a sheltered courtyard formation for better usability during transitional seasons.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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hanghaus202317 Dec 2022 12:28In my opinion, the building envelope is the gray area?
Garage 6 × 6 m (20 × 20 ft)
Storage 3 × 3 m (10 × 10 ft)
Driveway 5 m (16 ft)
Entrance to the street
I’m not sure what the red 3.04 m (10 ft) refers to? Unfortunately, the plan is not complete there.
Garage 6 × 6 m (20 × 20 ft)
Storage 3 × 3 m (10 × 10 ft)
Driveway 5 m (16 ft)
Entrance to the street
I’m not sure what the red 3.04 m (10 ft) refers to? Unfortunately, the plan is not complete there.
So, in the meantime I have found the source of my memory from yesterday – although it is for relatively new residents, it is still almost 17 meters (55.8 feet) "long": https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-bungalow-150qm-mit-garage.41703/ by @Eckert93
and in the thread by @zizzi (regarding a bungalow for a family with a child who uses a wheelchair), @kbt09 also linked several other bungalow threads: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-eines-barrierefreien-bungalow.25596/page-37#post-230602
The minimum setback distance here is probably exceeded by 4 cm (1.6 inches) both towards the street and the neighbor at the bottom of the plan, I suspect a tolerance allowance; the building envelope consistently measures 17 meters (55.8 feet) deep.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
and in the thread by @zizzi (regarding a bungalow for a family with a child who uses a wheelchair), @kbt09 also linked several other bungalow threads: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-eines-barrierefreien-bungalow.25596/page-37#post-230602
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
In my opinion, the building envelope is the grey area?
[...] I am not sure what the red 3.04 m (10 feet) represent?
The minimum setback distance here is probably exceeded by 4 cm (1.6 inches) both towards the street and the neighbor at the bottom of the plan, I suspect a tolerance allowance; the building envelope consistently measures 17 meters (55.8 feet) deep.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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Stefan6742257817 Dec 2022 12:4611ant schrieb:
So, I have now found the source of my memory from yesterday – although it applies to currently young residents, the building is almost 17 meters (56 feet) "long": https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-bungalow-150qm-mit-garage.41703/ by @Eckert93
and in the thread by @zizzi (regarding a bungalow for a family with a wheelchair user child), @kbt09 also linked several other bungalow threads: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-eines-barrierefreien-bungalow.25596/page-37#post-230602
The minimum setback distance here seems to be exceeded by about 4 cm (1.5 inches) both at the street and the neighbor side at the bottom of the plan; I assume this is a tolerance allowance. The building envelope is consistently 17 meters (56 feet) deep. Thanks for the links, I will take a look at them.
The red 3.04 m (10 feet) means 3.04 m (10 feet) up to the boundary/neighbor. This leaves 4 cm (1.5 inches) of clearance to comply with the 3 m (10 feet) minimum setback.
I sat down today and came up with the following floor plan.
(Warning, drawn by me as an amateur) This would allow for a covered terrace again. The only downside is that the pantry for the kitchen would be omitted, but maybe there are other ideas for that.
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