Hello,
we have been following this forum for some time now and have finally received our first draft from the architect. We are not entirely satisfied and wanted to ask for advice here before our next meeting with the architect.
We were unsure whether we are allowed to post the architect’s plan here directly, so we redrafted it ourselves, but the most important details should still be visible.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 350m2 (3,767 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio (floor area ratio for ground area): 0.4
Floor area ratio (total floor area in relation to plot size): 1.2
Building envelope, building line and boundary line
Edge development: yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 + attic
Roof type: gable roof with 46° pitch
Architectural style: ?
Orientation
Maximum heights / limits: wall height up to 7.5m (25 ft) above street level, house length directly affects roof height due to fixed roof pitch and thus influences setback distances.
Other requirements: terraced development pattern (house/garage/house/garage…), fire separation wall without windows on the west side
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type: gable roof mandatory
Basement, number of floors: without basement (due to cost)
Number of occupants, age: 4 people (ages 34, 33, 4, 2)
Space requirements on ground floor: utility/technical room, kitchen, living room, dining area, guest WC
Space requirements on upper floor: bedroom, walk-in closet, bathroom, office, laundry room
Space requirements in attic floor: children’s rooms 1 and 2, bathroom
Office use: both family use and home office, currently 95% home office
Guests per year: not relevant
Open or closed layout: open, but living room and kitchen separated by dining area
Conservative or modern style:
Open kitchen with island; kitchen island desired but not at any cost
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: TV in living room
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony
Garage, carport: double carport + extension for bicycles and small workbench (two parking spaces must be provided, tandem parking is not allowed)
Utility garden, greenhouse: only a small vegetable and herb bed
Other wishes/particulars/daily routine, including reasons why some things should or should not be included:
KNX system (brother-in-law is a master electrician but has no own company), controlled residential ventilation, photovoltaic system, window seat on the ground floor, bathtub not necessary; my wife has always liked the idea of a straight staircase—if it fits well here, we are open to suggestions.
House Design
Who created the design: architect, first draft
What do you particularly like? Why?
What do you not like? Why?
Window arrangement (exterior view)
Ground floor: living room is too small, guest WC too narrow
Upper floor: access to laundry room through the bathroom, too many doors in the bedroom (doors to bedroom and walk-in closet to be removed)
Attic floor: children’s room 1 has only one window, knee wall only 0.75m (2.5 ft); we will increase it to 1.1m (3.6 ft), cross gable not symmetrical, cross gable might be omitted to save space for more photovoltaic panels
The attic floor will be completely redesigned. Children’s rooms on the east side, bathroom in the northwest, and storage in the southwest.
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: €550,000
Personal budget for the house including fittings: €450,000 (including owner contributions)
Preferred heating technology: ground-source heat pump + photovoltaic, probably air-to-water heat pump + photovoltaic for cost reasons
If you have to give up something, on which details/additional features
-can you give up: kitchen island, bathtub
-can you not give up:
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? The architect’s room program was implemented.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
We initially only considered a rectangular house; with the cube shape we gain some space on the ground floor and a double carport is possible. Also, with the current height (12.25m / 40 ft), the house must be at least 4.9m (16 ft) away from the neighboring property (12.25 * 0.4) according to regulations.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
How can we best arrange the ground floor so that especially the living room doesn’t feel cramped?
We are also considering extending the house by 11m (36 ft).
we have been following this forum for some time now and have finally received our first draft from the architect. We are not entirely satisfied and wanted to ask for advice here before our next meeting with the architect.
We were unsure whether we are allowed to post the architect’s plan here directly, so we redrafted it ourselves, but the most important details should still be visible.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 350m2 (3,767 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio (floor area ratio for ground area): 0.4
Floor area ratio (total floor area in relation to plot size): 1.2
Building envelope, building line and boundary line
Edge development: yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 + attic
Roof type: gable roof with 46° pitch
Architectural style: ?
Orientation
Maximum heights / limits: wall height up to 7.5m (25 ft) above street level, house length directly affects roof height due to fixed roof pitch and thus influences setback distances.
Other requirements: terraced development pattern (house/garage/house/garage…), fire separation wall without windows on the west side
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type: gable roof mandatory
Basement, number of floors: without basement (due to cost)
Number of occupants, age: 4 people (ages 34, 33, 4, 2)
Space requirements on ground floor: utility/technical room, kitchen, living room, dining area, guest WC
Space requirements on upper floor: bedroom, walk-in closet, bathroom, office, laundry room
Space requirements in attic floor: children’s rooms 1 and 2, bathroom
Office use: both family use and home office, currently 95% home office
Guests per year: not relevant
Open or closed layout: open, but living room and kitchen separated by dining area
Conservative or modern style:
Open kitchen with island; kitchen island desired but not at any cost
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: TV in living room
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony
Garage, carport: double carport + extension for bicycles and small workbench (two parking spaces must be provided, tandem parking is not allowed)
Utility garden, greenhouse: only a small vegetable and herb bed
Other wishes/particulars/daily routine, including reasons why some things should or should not be included:
KNX system (brother-in-law is a master electrician but has no own company), controlled residential ventilation, photovoltaic system, window seat on the ground floor, bathtub not necessary; my wife has always liked the idea of a straight staircase—if it fits well here, we are open to suggestions.
House Design
Who created the design: architect, first draft
What do you particularly like? Why?
What do you not like? Why?
Window arrangement (exterior view)
Ground floor: living room is too small, guest WC too narrow
Upper floor: access to laundry room through the bathroom, too many doors in the bedroom (doors to bedroom and walk-in closet to be removed)
Attic floor: children’s room 1 has only one window, knee wall only 0.75m (2.5 ft); we will increase it to 1.1m (3.6 ft), cross gable not symmetrical, cross gable might be omitted to save space for more photovoltaic panels
The attic floor will be completely redesigned. Children’s rooms on the east side, bathroom in the northwest, and storage in the southwest.
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: €550,000
Personal budget for the house including fittings: €450,000 (including owner contributions)
Preferred heating technology: ground-source heat pump + photovoltaic, probably air-to-water heat pump + photovoltaic for cost reasons
If you have to give up something, on which details/additional features
-can you give up: kitchen island, bathtub
-can you not give up:
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? The architect’s room program was implemented.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
We initially only considered a rectangular house; with the cube shape we gain some space on the ground floor and a double carport is possible. Also, with the current height (12.25m / 40 ft), the house must be at least 4.9m (16 ft) away from the neighboring property (12.25 * 0.4) according to regulations.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
How can we best arrange the ground floor so that especially the living room doesn’t feel cramped?
We are also considering extending the house by 11m (36 ft).
Würfel* schrieb:
I haven’t understood yet how wide the house is allowed to be, so it’s difficult for me to give you advice. The setback situation is as follows: on the west boundary there is an extension obligation, where the neighbor has to build a single-story connecting structure (garage/carport) due to linked house construction; on the east boundary (borderline between linked houses and semi-detached houses) there is a normal setback, i.e. 0.4 H (we are in Bavaria – what about the 16m privilege?) for the house, and a boundary-building privilege for garage or carport (if the average wall height is under 3m). The plot width is, as far as I understand, 13.00 meters (42 feet 8 inches). @Escroda has unfortunately been driven away :-(
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Please excuse me for not tweaking the architect’s design. I don’t think it’s bad. However, it’s just not really my style.
Here’s my own attempt:
I hope I interpreted the chain arrangement correctly. Initially, only 2 parking spaces were planned in the “front yard.” Half of them could still be covered, so the windshield stays ice-free in winter. If that’s not enough, the entire house will need to be shifted toward the garden accordingly. The slope of the plot at the driveway also plays a role here.
The upper floor is only 7.10m (23 feet) wide to maintain the required distances. Optional balcony for the kids, where (hopefully) the outdoor unit of the air-to-water heat pump can be installed. Utility room directly below.
Here’s my own attempt:
I hope I interpreted the chain arrangement correctly. Initially, only 2 parking spaces were planned in the “front yard.” Half of them could still be covered, so the windshield stays ice-free in winter. If that’s not enough, the entire house will need to be shifted toward the garden accordingly. The slope of the plot at the driveway also plays a role here.
The upper floor is only 7.10m (23 feet) wide to maintain the required distances. Optional balcony for the kids, where (hopefully) the outdoor unit of the air-to-water heat pump can be installed. Utility room directly below.
K a t j a schrieb:
Please excuse me for not messing around with the architect’s design. I don’t think it’s that bad. However, it’s just not really my style. That’s actually very helpful, as I am currently focused on the architect’s design and have based all variations on it. Your design is something completely different. I hadn’t even considered a different staircase layout and relocating the utility room. Thank you very much for that.
I have two questions about your design.
1. Are there any issues with moving the utility room to the upper floor? Does there still need to be space reserved for utilities on the ground floor?
2. The bathrooms are not stacked in this layout. Could that cause any problems?
11ant schrieb:
we are in BY – what about the 16m privilege?Thanks for pointing that out, I wasn’t aware of it. I looked it up, so we should only need to maintain the minimum distance of 3m (10 feet). Check this with the architect; they should know.Stegott schrieb:
I have two questions regarding the design.
1. Are there any issues with relocating the technical room to the upper floor? Does there still need to be space reserved for technical equipment on the ground floor? To my knowledge, no. In this case, you would probably provide a shaft in the guest toilet for the pipes. But it’s best to ask the utility provider or the local architect.
Stegott schrieb:
2. The bathrooms are not stacked above each other. Does this cause any problems? As long as you find a way to route the pipes downwards, it should be fine. For the kids’ bathroom, it’s a bit tricky. If you look closely, you’ll see that I built a drywall partition along the fire wall, which extends up to the staircase. This partition runs through all floors at the staircase. Behind it, the pipes are meant to be “hidden” and routed towards the front.
The utility company only requires that the pipes up to the house entry point are not built over. You can install your heating system and all distribution equipment on the upper or attic floor as well; someone has already done this here in the forum: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/gedaemmten-technikraum-fuer-die-gastherme-auf-dem-dachboden-schaffe.32450/ and also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/technikraum-im-spitzboden-probleme-mit-schallschutz.34488/
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