Hello everyone,
How should a walk-in (curbless) shower be insulated?
We have the following problem:
Water damage in the bedroom (stains, warped laminate flooring, etc.), water is coming through the adjacent wall to the bathroom/shower.
Two people from a renovation company, who work closely with the insurance, came to inspect.
The first person (measurement technician) said that the silicone joint (wall/floor) is porous and leaking, that maintenance is needed, and the insurance will likely cover the consequential damage, but the joint has to be replaced by us. He also said that there must be waterproofing under the tiles to keep the water inside the shower. The silicone joint is only cosmetic, but the shower must be watertight even without an intact silicone joint. He suspected that the waterproofing (the house is 8 years old) might be damaged and that tiles would need to be removed for inspection. He measured moisture all over the walls and floors.
He concluded that repairing the joint is a short-term solution, but to ensure the water stays inside the shower in the long term, the waterproofing needs to be checked.
About three days later, the surveyor arrived with the measurement results. He said he still had to review them and couldn’t comment yet. He took photos and some measurements.
Now we have the report—directly linked to a repair quote, which the insurance typically covers.
During the inspection, I was told that furniture in the bedroom would be dismantled, stored, and reassembled. The quote, however, says I have to handle this myself. I can move a dresser, yes. But I cannot just push a 3-meter (10 ft) wide wardrobe out of the room, nor can I assemble or dismantle it. Is this standard practice?
Also, all the work (drying, replastering walls, painting, replacing flooring, etc.) in the quote is planned for the bedroom, since we have to take care of the silicone joint ourselves. However, I wonder if just renewing the joint in the bathroom is enough. The first technician told us the waterproofing also needs to be checked, because even without an intact silicone joint, the water must stay inside the shower.
As usual, there are sources that say it one way or another, and of course everyone in the family thinks they know best (no one is a tradesperson).
What is your opinion?
Sorry for the long post—I hope it was clear.
Thank you very much and best regards!
How should a walk-in (curbless) shower be insulated?
We have the following problem:
Water damage in the bedroom (stains, warped laminate flooring, etc.), water is coming through the adjacent wall to the bathroom/shower.
Two people from a renovation company, who work closely with the insurance, came to inspect.
The first person (measurement technician) said that the silicone joint (wall/floor) is porous and leaking, that maintenance is needed, and the insurance will likely cover the consequential damage, but the joint has to be replaced by us. He also said that there must be waterproofing under the tiles to keep the water inside the shower. The silicone joint is only cosmetic, but the shower must be watertight even without an intact silicone joint. He suspected that the waterproofing (the house is 8 years old) might be damaged and that tiles would need to be removed for inspection. He measured moisture all over the walls and floors.
He concluded that repairing the joint is a short-term solution, but to ensure the water stays inside the shower in the long term, the waterproofing needs to be checked.
About three days later, the surveyor arrived with the measurement results. He said he still had to review them and couldn’t comment yet. He took photos and some measurements.
Now we have the report—directly linked to a repair quote, which the insurance typically covers.
During the inspection, I was told that furniture in the bedroom would be dismantled, stored, and reassembled. The quote, however, says I have to handle this myself. I can move a dresser, yes. But I cannot just push a 3-meter (10 ft) wide wardrobe out of the room, nor can I assemble or dismantle it. Is this standard practice?
Also, all the work (drying, replastering walls, painting, replacing flooring, etc.) in the quote is planned for the bedroom, since we have to take care of the silicone joint ourselves. However, I wonder if just renewing the joint in the bathroom is enough. The first technician told us the waterproofing also needs to be checked, because even without an intact silicone joint, the water must stay inside the shower.
As usual, there are sources that say it one way or another, and of course everyone in the family thinks they know best (no one is a tradesperson).
What is your opinion?
Sorry for the long post—I hope it was clear.
Thank you very much and best regards!
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Benutzer20025 Feb 2022 17:45Blue0310 schrieb:
The silicone sealant joint is just cosmetic work; however, the shower’s watertightness must be ensured even without an intact silicone seal.Absolutely correct!Blue0310 schrieb:
However, I wonder if simply renewing the seal in the bathroom is enough.No, because the underlying problem remains and may (perhaps) reoccur eventually.The question is, who is responsible for fixing any possible construction defects? Is this really covered by insurance?
Attention, this is purely my assumption: The standard 5-year warranty for typical accidental construction defects has expired. However, if the shower was never properly waterproofed, this is a hidden defect for which the responsible (plumbing?) company could still be held liable.
The first employee (measurement technician) said that insulation under the tiles can crack or get damaged due to the “movement” of the house, similar to the settlement cracks in the neighboring room.
From what I understand here, I should discuss with the insurance damage assessor on Monday that the insulation in the bathroom also needs to be checked, and that the tiles in the shower will need to be removed. Is that correct?
From what I understand here, I should discuss with the insurance damage assessor on Monday that the insulation in the bathroom also needs to be checked, and that the tiles in the shower will need to be removed. Is that correct?
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GabiFresh9 Apr 2022 19:28Blue0310 schrieb:
From what I understand here, during the conversation with the insurance damage assessor on Monday, I should discuss that the bathroom needs to be checked for insulation and that the tiles in the shower must be removed, is that correct? That is the right decision.
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