Hello,
even though this question has been asked many times before, I would like to ask it once more. I am planning to build a single-family house with approximately 120 - 130 sqm (1,290 - 1,400 sq ft) of living space plus a storage room and garage. From what I have read in this forum, a rough estimate could be calculated as follows:
Now I am my own spoiler because the budget is only 210,000 euros. So, at this point, I should give up the building project, but I cannot understand that it is not possible to build a house for 210,000 euros. I would describe my requirements as simple in terms of fittings but high when it comes to quality. I don’t need any luxury, but I can’t stand flimsy windows/doors or creaky stairs. I don’t want much, but what I have should be solid. If I take this on, I want to be quite sure that this budget limit will not be significantly exceeded.
Specifically, I would say the following: simple floor plan – terrace – no slope – shutters (roller shutters) – no curtains inside, instead blinds – no frills – all tiled except for bedrooms and children’s rooms – bathroom with toilet – separate guest toilet – no underfloor heating – no electric shutters/blinds/skylights – no automatic ventilation system – walls and ceilings painted white with textured wallpaper. As the only luxuries, I would like a wood-burning stove in the living room and a network connection in every room. Everything kept simple but of solid/durable quality. For DIY work, I would do the painting (wallpapering/painting) and outdoor areas myself. I would also install the flooring in the rooms that are not tiled (bedrooms/children’s rooms) as well as handle the cleaning up. Preferably built with a solid construction method.
Now the big question: Is this completely unrealistic? Or how should one go about building a simple but solid house for 210,000 euros?
Thanks and regards
even though this question has been asked many times before, I would like to ask it once more. I am planning to build a single-family house with approximately 120 - 130 sqm (1,290 - 1,400 sq ft) of living space plus a storage room and garage. From what I have read in this forum, a rough estimate could be calculated as follows:
| 130 sqm x 1,500 |
| Additional construction costs |
| Garage |
| Outdoor areas |
| Kitchen |
| Painting/flooring |
| Miscellaneous |
| Total |
Now I am my own spoiler because the budget is only 210,000 euros. So, at this point, I should give up the building project, but I cannot understand that it is not possible to build a house for 210,000 euros. I would describe my requirements as simple in terms of fittings but high when it comes to quality. I don’t need any luxury, but I can’t stand flimsy windows/doors or creaky stairs. I don’t want much, but what I have should be solid. If I take this on, I want to be quite sure that this budget limit will not be significantly exceeded.
Specifically, I would say the following: simple floor plan – terrace – no slope – shutters (roller shutters) – no curtains inside, instead blinds – no frills – all tiled except for bedrooms and children’s rooms – bathroom with toilet – separate guest toilet – no underfloor heating – no electric shutters/blinds/skylights – no automatic ventilation system – walls and ceilings painted white with textured wallpaper. As the only luxuries, I would like a wood-burning stove in the living room and a network connection in every room. Everything kept simple but of solid/durable quality. For DIY work, I would do the painting (wallpapering/painting) and outdoor areas myself. I would also install the flooring in the rooms that are not tiled (bedrooms/children’s rooms) as well as handle the cleaning up. Preferably built with a solid construction method.
Now the big question: Is this completely unrealistic? Or how should one go about building a simple but solid house for 210,000 euros?
Thanks and regards
It is also possible to first build the ground floor ready for move-in, and then complete the upper floor in shell condition the following year. For this, utility connections should already be extended upwards, and it is important for liquidity during the construction: money must flow (either through salary or financing) so that materials can be purchased.
Garage: many people are happy without one... it can also be added later 🙂
Garage: many people are happy without one... it can also be added later 🙂
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angoletti119 Nov 2013 07:55Mutz schrieb:
The house I want will probably cost between 250,000 and 280,000 EUR. You have to be able to handle that; otherwise, it’s not realistic. Of course, I would try to lower the price through personal labor and negotiating discounts on materials. But you shouldn’t count on that as a buffer. That’s not so far off from the 300,000 I mentioned. Raising the ground by 80–100cm (31–39 inches) can easily cost 15,000 euros. Then a few unforeseen things come up, and you’re there.
Just a small example among many...
At my place, the roof boards barely extended beyond the outer beams. So rain hits the roof beams. The house would have worked like that, but for me, that’s not quality if I have to paint up there every three years. So what do you do when you only build once? Metal sheets go on the beams, which can’t be that expensive. 250€ per gable, and unfortunately, I have four of them. Things like this add up quickly, and you’re well over the planned costs, even if you’ve already factored in quite a bit.
You shouldn’t estimate personal labor too high in your budget. I spend on average 5–6 hours every day after work on the construction site, every weekend, and 95% of my vacation days. Sure, you save some money, but to be honest, that only covers small extras that you want to treat yourself to anyway.
Therefore, still, if you’re really honest and build solidly (roller shutters belong on all windows), then 300,000 is gone.
angoletti1 schrieb:
and build solidly (roller shutters should be installed on all windows) Why is that necessary???
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angoletti119 Nov 2013 08:13In my opinion, it’s standard. Maybe some people manage without roller shutters, which for me counts as a surprising saving (something that doesn’t happen often in construction!).
In contrast to roller shutters, things like a garage, rainwater tank, clay roof tiles, stove, geothermal heating, bus system, four instead of two gables, etc., are luxury in my view.
Of course, you primarily build for yourself, but in a worst-case scenario, you should also consider whether the house would sell well. What good is it if I build for 150,000 and a few years later only get 100,000 for it because it’s not attractive to the market?
It’s like with cars — without air conditioning, you can only sell them by lowering the price. Fully loaded options lose value significantly, and the reasonable middle ground is usually quite fine. ;-)
In contrast to roller shutters, things like a garage, rainwater tank, clay roof tiles, stove, geothermal heating, bus system, four instead of two gables, etc., are luxury in my view.
Of course, you primarily build for yourself, but in a worst-case scenario, you should also consider whether the house would sell well. What good is it if I build for 150,000 and a few years later only get 100,000 for it because it’s not attractive to the market?
It’s like with cars — without air conditioning, you can only sell them by lowering the price. Fully loaded options lose value significantly, and the reasonable middle ground is usually quite fine. ;-)
angoletti1 schrieb:
Because in my opinion, it’s standard. Maybe some people manage without roller shutters, so for me that counts as a surprising saving (which rarely happens in construction!). Well, how many houses have you built so far? I’m living in my third house now. The first two didn’t have roller shutters, and in our current new build, we’re only installing them on the lower floor. Sure, I would have liked to have them, I admit that. But what’s considered "standard" seems to vary a lot from person to person.
angoletti1 schrieb:
Unlike roller shutters, things like a garage, water tank, clay roof tiles, stove, geothermal heating, bus system, four instead of two gables, etc. are luxury to me. Well, for us, a garage is "standard" and it has always been included – I guess "standard" doesn’t really exist.
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May I ask why only at the bottom? Why not leave them out entirely?
Security against break-ins can’t be the reason.
Especially at the top, shutters are useful when you have children who need to nap in the afternoon. At least our little one always says he would miss something if it wasn’t completely dark.
Retrofitting shutters is not exactly a simple or cheap job either.
Security against break-ins can’t be the reason.
Especially at the top, shutters are useful when you have children who need to nap in the afternoon. At least our little one always says he would miss something if it wasn’t completely dark.
Retrofitting shutters is not exactly a simple or cheap job either.
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