ᐅ Air-to-Water Heat Pump: Current Consumption and Data

Zaba12 schrieb:

It’s shown with me. These are not hypothetical values. The calculations are based on my actual data, meaning the feed-in tariff and the electricity supplier price.

Yes, but the discussion was about no self-consumption. And my values are not made up. The idea that larger systems and especially self-consumption may be worthwhile depending on the requirements is valid. Still, you tend to get better returns with electricity premiums and funds.

To reassure everyone, I will also install a photovoltaic system next year. However, not for economic reasons, but for ecological ones. 🙂

Bookstar schrieb:

You still get a better deal with electricity subsidies and funds.

I had no benefit from that. In 2015, I invested in individual stocks. The portfolio is still at nearly -22,000 in realized losses. That’s why, as I always say, I prefer making extra repayments over relying on fund managers here.

Bookstar schrieb:

To reassure everyone, next year I’m also installing a photovoltaic system. But not for economic reasons, rather for ecological ones 🙂

Sure, you eco-friendly guy 🙂
But you’re right, you only talked about feed-in tariffs, that’s true.

Zaba12 schrieb:

I don’t have anything from that. In 2015, I concentrated on individual stocks. The portfolio still shows almost a 22,000-euro (about 24,000 USD) realized loss. That’s why I, as I always write, prefer special repayments rather than relying on all the fund managers here.

I never said you should gamble like in a casino and invest your entire fortune in Wirecard 😀

Bookstar schrieb:

I never said you should gamble like in a casino and invest your entire fortune in Wirecard 😀

😎 That was so adventurous and foolish. But anyway. I was involved in almost everything. Most recently in biotech and hydrogen to try to offset the losses.

It all started with Facebook at around 29€ per share (about $31) at some point. I should have held on.

Bookstar schrieb:

So, at least 20 years. Any evidence to the contrary?

Read my post. In December, 10kW systems were priced at €11,500 (about $11,500). Currently, prices are lower. A friend was offered a 10.6kW system this week for €11,000 (same technology). That equals about 15 years without self-consumption.
Working from home, an electric car, and normal self-consumption can significantly reduce that time. Six years is possible.

nordanney schrieb:

Read my post. 10 kW systems were priced at €11,500 (approximately $11,500) in December. Currently, it's cheaper. A friend was offered 10.6 kW for €11,000 (approximately $11,000) this week (same technology). That means 15 years without self-consumption.
Home office, electric car, and normal self-consumption can reduce the payback period significantly. Six years is possible.

I am really happy for you and your friend. My cheapest offer was for 7.2 kWp at €9,000 net (approximately $9,000). Below that price, there was no chance in our region; other offers were sometimes significantly higher.