ᐅ House and Floor Plan Design – Initial Architect’s Draft Available
Created on: 14 Oct 2020 18:29
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Pinkiponk
As previously announced, our old house in Baden-Württemberg has now been sold, we have moved to the Leipzig district, and we can now focus on our new house. Due to our age, we have deliberately downsized both the lot size and the living space. We have a first architect’s draft. I have already noted a few change requests and am now looking forward to your additions, criticism, and suggestions. If further plans or similar are needed, I will gladly provide them as long as I have them available.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Lot size: 567sqm (6,105 sqft)
Slope: visually not noticeable; if this is important information, I will look for where to find it
Site occupancy index: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attached drawing
Edge development: not allowed/desired on our part
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: classic, conservative
Orientation: ?
Maximum heights/limits: “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)”; “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to eave height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Further requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: we are trying to approximate the house shown in the photo below; however, without the gable projection; classic/conservative, hipped roof, town house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 1 male, 64 years old – 1 female, 58 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor → kitchen, shower bathroom, living/lounge room, utility room with kitchenette and floor drain, hallway;
Upper floor → bathroom with tub, bedroom, 2 “wardrobe and storage rooms”
Office: family use or home office? Couple without children, no home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 10
Open or closed architecture: open on the outside, closed on the inside
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: no, classical L-shaped kitchen or similar (the plan includes a cooking island that will not be built)
Number of dining seats: 2 in the kitchen, up to 6–8 in the living/lounge room
Fireplace: gas stove chimney
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: both no
Garage, carport: 2 arched carports
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: both no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be
House Design
Who created the plan:
– Planner from a construction company: yes, in cooperation with the clients
– Architect: unclear
– Do-it-yourself: yes, in cooperation with the prefabricated house manufacturer’s planner
What do you especially like? Why? Many windows and patio doors, lots of natural light and fresh air
What do you not like? Why? The windows on the upper floor are too low in the plan, but this will be changed
Price estimate according to architect/planner: already commissioned offer/order €312,780.00 (without carport, outdoor facilities, additional construction costs, land, ...)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: €400,000.00
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal (according to legal requirements)
If you have to forgo something, which details/upgrades
– What you can give up: we are already giving up shutters, whirlpool
– What you cannot give up: many windows and patio doors, muntins in the windows and doors
Why is the design as it is? For example:
A mixture of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it good or bad? It generally meets our wishes. On the ground floor, we want access to the garden from every room. We find symmetry more pleasing than asymmetry. Few different window and door formats. No horizontal (“lying”) windows. Each of us has a separate room for clothing and such, so that no wardrobes have to be placed in the bedroom. We do not want a separate dressing room.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The roof seems somewhat steep to me. Is a 30-degree roof pitch for a house with a base of 9.40m x 9.40m (31 feet x 31 feet) too steep? The standard according to the provider is 22 degrees. That seemed too flat, or you can hardly see the roof.
The development plan was too large to upload; I will try again in a separate post in this thread.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Lot size: 567sqm (6,105 sqft)
Slope: visually not noticeable; if this is important information, I will look for where to find it
Site occupancy index: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attached drawing
Edge development: not allowed/desired on our part
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: classic, conservative
Orientation: ?
Maximum heights/limits: “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)”; “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to eave height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Further requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: we are trying to approximate the house shown in the photo below; however, without the gable projection; classic/conservative, hipped roof, town house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 1 male, 64 years old – 1 female, 58 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor → kitchen, shower bathroom, living/lounge room, utility room with kitchenette and floor drain, hallway;
Upper floor → bathroom with tub, bedroom, 2 “wardrobe and storage rooms”
Office: family use or home office? Couple without children, no home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 10
Open or closed architecture: open on the outside, closed on the inside
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: no, classical L-shaped kitchen or similar (the plan includes a cooking island that will not be built)
Number of dining seats: 2 in the kitchen, up to 6–8 in the living/lounge room
Fireplace: gas stove chimney
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: both no
Garage, carport: 2 arched carports
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: both no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be
House Design
Who created the plan:
– Planner from a construction company: yes, in cooperation with the clients
– Architect: unclear
– Do-it-yourself: yes, in cooperation with the prefabricated house manufacturer’s planner
What do you especially like? Why? Many windows and patio doors, lots of natural light and fresh air
What do you not like? Why? The windows on the upper floor are too low in the plan, but this will be changed
Price estimate according to architect/planner: already commissioned offer/order €312,780.00 (without carport, outdoor facilities, additional construction costs, land, ...)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: €400,000.00
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal (according to legal requirements)
If you have to forgo something, which details/upgrades
– What you can give up: we are already giving up shutters, whirlpool
– What you cannot give up: many windows and patio doors, muntins in the windows and doors
Why is the design as it is? For example:
A mixture of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it good or bad? It generally meets our wishes. On the ground floor, we want access to the garden from every room. We find symmetry more pleasing than asymmetry. Few different window and door formats. No horizontal (“lying”) windows. Each of us has a separate room for clothing and such, so that no wardrobes have to be placed in the bedroom. We do not want a separate dressing room.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The roof seems somewhat steep to me. Is a 30-degree roof pitch for a house with a base of 9.40m x 9.40m (31 feet x 31 feet) too steep? The standard according to the provider is 22 degrees. That seemed too flat, or you can hardly see the roof.
The development plan was too large to upload; I will try again in a separate post in this thread.
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Alessandro15 Oct 2020 07:35What was the idea behind the kitchen layout? You can separate it from the living/dining area for various reasons, but the distance between the kitchen and the dining table is disproportionately large.
ypg schrieb:
Do you have to build two stories, or is that just your preference?
Respecting your age: we are also over 50/60, but if we had been allowed, we would definitely have built a bungalow at that age. I didn’t dare to say the same. But it’s a reasonable question. We’re not getting any younger.
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Pinkiponk15 Oct 2020 09:12Pinky0301 schrieb:
- The shower on the upper floor seems quite small to me, but maybe it only feels that way next to the large sauna?
Is there a lounge chair shown in the bathroom? Some bathtub manufacturers offer trays to turn the tub into a lounge. Not exactly cheap, but very stylish (in my opinion), and you could save the lounge chair that’s a bit in the way. We haven’t thought much about the size of the shower and sauna yet; we thought we could decide on that later. Both were probably marked by the designer just as placeholders since we haven’t discussed the measurements. The lounge chair was not planned by us either; it’s only in the drawing. Thanks for the tip about the trays, I didn’t know that but will keep it in mind.
Pinky0301 schrieb:
- How is the kitchen planned? It’s a pity you don’t want an open kitchen; you could, for example, separate it with sliding doors. I find the way to the dining table and the terrace quite long. The kitchen planning hasn’t been done yet either. There will definitely be no kitchen island—I want to keep the middle area open. The kitchen isn’t a high priority for me. I have the impression that “some” kitchen will fit in once the connections are in place. The only thing important to me is that the sink is not under the window. I want the window to be freely accessible, if possible.
We only use the dining table for meals when there are a larger number of guests; then I use a serving trolley or set up a buffet.
Pinky0301 schrieb:
- Why a shower on the ground floor? That is intended as a shower for overnight guests, who hopefully sleep on the sofa in the living room rather than somewhere upstairs.
Pinky0301 schrieb:
- Wouldn’t it be more practical to have the laundry on the upper floor? Especially in older age, carrying the laundry basket up and down the stairs can be difficult or even dangerous. Thanks for this tip as well. Having the washing machine in the upper bathroom is definitely a good option. My husband wanted it in the utility room, but I would also prefer it in the upstairs bathroom.
The house is not planned for old age. At a much later stage, we currently plan to move to an accessible ground-floor apartment with a small garden.
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Pinkiponk15 Oct 2020 09:14icandoit schrieb:
Hello,
I wouldn’t place the carport in the south. Double carport in the north.
What about the setback distances? Aren’t they 3 meters (10 feet) in Saxony as well? Then shift the house 80cm (31 inches) to the north.
Why build a square? A rectangular shape with the long side facing south offers more freedom on the south side. INAA We need to think about this more carefully.
Regarding the double carport in the north, I have to try to imagine how two carports next to each other would look. As mentioned earlier, I originally thought the two curved carports would look like two petals around the house in the middle, but now they seem too small or the house too large. My idea doesn’t fit.
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Pinkiponk15 Oct 2020 09:16Pinky0301 schrieb:
And how do you get from the carports to the house?We haven’t planned the outdoor area yet. But I assume we will create a nice winding path. Or maybe a straight path lined with bushes. The carports will also be landscaped and "hidden" behind bushes if we stick to this plan.P
pagoni202015 Oct 2020 09:23There was also the question of to what extent you can still make changes, or if everything is basically set in stone as planned. For example, could you still change the house design or similar aspects if you come up with new ideas?
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