ᐅ Telecommunications in New Construction of a Semi-Detached House – What/When/How
Created on: 10 Jun 2020 09:21
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vorkalmatador
Hello dear homebuilding community,
I know there are already thousands of topics on this, but since I still have a few general questions, I’ll just go ahead and start topic number 1001.
The situation: New construction of a semi-detached house, construction start planned for the end of the year, completion planned for September 2021. The semi-detached house is located in the second row. Our relationship with the other family is very good after several meetings, so we are planning to “work together” on this.
From what I understand from the general and extended construction description, the construction company does not take care of telecommunications; the electricity connection is mentioned in the additional building costs.
Our profile: We are two young adults with two small children, tech-savvy, currently using a lot of Wi-Fi. A LAN cable is connected to the TV, which we watch via IPTV. At the moment, we are with Vodafone (cable). Since it is a shared medium, there are often speed drops in the evening.
What we want:
Now, there are two options: cable via Vodafone or DSL via Telekom, right?
According to the availability check, cable offers up to 1 Gbit/s (gigabit per second), DSL with Telekom up to 250 Mbit/s (megabit per second).
Cable would allow TV, internet, and landline, DSL for internet, landline, and IPTV via Magenta.
Both connections would have to be newly installed. Can you already contact the providers even though the building permit / planning permission has not yet been granted? How does the timing usually work? It would make a lot of sense to have this installed at the same time as the electrical conduit work, right? The ground would already be open then. Can this be “shared” with the other party of the semi-detached house?
At the moment, I’m leaning strongly towards the DSL option. We don’t use TV via cable, and the speed fluctuations with cable internet make me a bit uneasy.
What can I prepare now to ensure good internet reception later in the finished attic / first floor and on the terrace?
How is the DSL connection usually set up? Does a Telekom “socket” go into the utility room, and must the router be placed there?
I’m planning to have LAN sockets installed in the children’s rooms, the bedroom, the living room, and the attic. Does that actually make sense?
I know these are a lot of (beginner) questions, but I hope you can shed some light on this.
Thanks so much in advance.
Best regards
I know there are already thousands of topics on this, but since I still have a few general questions, I’ll just go ahead and start topic number 1001.
The situation: New construction of a semi-detached house, construction start planned for the end of the year, completion planned for September 2021. The semi-detached house is located in the second row. Our relationship with the other family is very good after several meetings, so we are planning to “work together” on this.
From what I understand from the general and extended construction description, the construction company does not take care of telecommunications; the electricity connection is mentioned in the additional building costs.
Our profile: We are two young adults with two small children, tech-savvy, currently using a lot of Wi-Fi. A LAN cable is connected to the TV, which we watch via IPTV. At the moment, we are with Vodafone (cable). Since it is a shared medium, there are often speed drops in the evening.
What we want:
- No satellite TV. I don’t want a dish on the roof; I’ve never used satellite TV in my life, so we don’t need it.
- We basically don’t need a landline; we’ve used it maybe three times in the last five years.
- Fast, stable internet with coverage throughout the entire house and, ideally, in the garden as well.
Now, there are two options: cable via Vodafone or DSL via Telekom, right?
According to the availability check, cable offers up to 1 Gbit/s (gigabit per second), DSL with Telekom up to 250 Mbit/s (megabit per second).
Cable would allow TV, internet, and landline, DSL for internet, landline, and IPTV via Magenta.
Both connections would have to be newly installed. Can you already contact the providers even though the building permit / planning permission has not yet been granted? How does the timing usually work? It would make a lot of sense to have this installed at the same time as the electrical conduit work, right? The ground would already be open then. Can this be “shared” with the other party of the semi-detached house?
At the moment, I’m leaning strongly towards the DSL option. We don’t use TV via cable, and the speed fluctuations with cable internet make me a bit uneasy.
What can I prepare now to ensure good internet reception later in the finished attic / first floor and on the terrace?
How is the DSL connection usually set up? Does a Telekom “socket” go into the utility room, and must the router be placed there?
I’m planning to have LAN sockets installed in the children’s rooms, the bedroom, the living room, and the attic. Does that actually make sense?
I know these are a lot of (beginner) questions, but I hope you can shed some light on this.
Thanks so much in advance.
Best regards
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vorkalmatador11 Jun 2020 07:37Thank you for your help.
From the patch panel along the walls to the back of the outlet box, installation cables are used, not patch cables. Does the electrician usually bring these themselves, or do you typically have to provide them? The same applies to the network outlets.
From the patch panel along the walls to the back of the outlet box, installation cables are used, not patch cables. Does the electrician usually bring these themselves, or do you typically have to provide them? The same applies to the network outlets.
You can arrange that with your electrician. In my experience, general electricians who work in rural or standard residential settings are usually happy to install cables but are not very familiar with network sockets and patch panels. The result: cables were installed, but I connected them myself. The advantage is that you can immediately test if everything is working properly and fix any issues right away.
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vorkalmatador11 Jun 2020 08:39K1300S schrieb:
You can arrange that with your electrician. From my experience, the average general electrician is happy to lay cables but doesn’t really know much about network outlets and patch panels. Conclusion: the cables were installed, but I connected them myself. The advantage of this is that you can test immediately whether everything is working correctly and fix any issues right away. Frustrating, I hoped to avoid the actual connections.
With all the wires involved, it’s not as simple as just plugging a patch cable into a socket. You really need to know what you’re doing here.
It's really not that complicated, trust me. The important thing is that the electrician leaves a cable end long enough when pulling the wires, so you don’t have to fumble inside the flush-mounted box but can make the connection outside and then simply insert the module into the box.
Other than that, it’s quite straightforward, as long as you’re not colorblind or suffering from memory issues.
In a house I used to live in, the electrician had connected everything, but out of twelve connections, six were faulty and I had to fix them myself. For my brother, it was even three out of four, despite everything supposedly being checked.
Other than that, it’s quite straightforward, as long as you’re not colorblind or suffering from memory issues.
In a house I used to live in, the electrician had connected everything, but out of twelve connections, six were faulty and I had to fix them myself. For my brother, it was even three out of four, despite everything supposedly being checked.
I’ll join the conversation here:
Yesterday, I spoke with Telekom and Vodafone regarding our new single-family home build. Telekom said the application processing time is 16-20 weeks.
What’s more important to me is the following:
Telekom: "Oh, you only have 3 Mbps there."
Vodafone: "Let me check quickly. Yes, you can get up to 1 Gbps actually."
So the internet must be delivered via cable. Now I’m wondering if it still makes sense to have the telephone line installed as well. Honestly, I can’t think of a reason to do so, which means we could invest the €799 elsewhere.
The only scenario I can think of: the cable network fails permanently (provider goes bankrupt, or something else…). But even then, I would rather rely on LTE/5G than copper with 3 Mbps.
Am I missing something?
Yesterday, I spoke with Telekom and Vodafone regarding our new single-family home build. Telekom said the application processing time is 16-20 weeks.
What’s more important to me is the following:
Telekom: "Oh, you only have 3 Mbps there."
Vodafone: "Let me check quickly. Yes, you can get up to 1 Gbps actually."
So the internet must be delivered via cable. Now I’m wondering if it still makes sense to have the telephone line installed as well. Honestly, I can’t think of a reason to do so, which means we could invest the €799 elsewhere.
The only scenario I can think of: the cable network fails permanently (provider goes bankrupt, or something else…). But even then, I would rather rely on LTE/5G than copper with 3 Mbps.
Am I missing something?
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