ᐅ Location of a city villa or detached single-family house on a 500 m² rectangular plot
Created on: 17 Jan 2020 18:03
T
Tolentino
Dear all,
after sharing the floor plans of my possible hamster cage with you in the other thread , here comes the next thread (thanks again for all the constructive suggestions there).
Just so you know, the semi-detached house is not off the table yet, as this plot of land is highly sought after and it’s not clear whether it will work out. But this one would be my favorite.
Now to this plot. For now, I’m mainly concerned with where and roughly how the house should be positioned on this plot.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 500 m² (5400 sq ft)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio: 0.2
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) from the street, 3 m (10 ft) from neighbors
Edge development: allowed for garages and sheds, none existing on the plot
Number of parking spaces: 1-2
Number of floors: 1.5–2.5
Roof shape: no preference
Architectural style: no preference
Orientation: aligned parallel to the street
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height max. 9 m (30 ft)
Below are the site plans I created myself based on the details from the listing.
This is a rough overview of the plot with building boundaries and dimensions.
My question is: where to put the house?
The broker suggests placing it towards the back, since you already have the 5 m (16 ft) setback at the front and would “gain” about 3 m (10 ft) of garden. My partner doesn’t like this because of the visibility from the street. I say: privacy screen! But I also think, a fence too high might create a prison-yard feel.
But even if you follow this suggestion, I wonder if a more square floor plan (-> town villa style) would be better?
Like this, for example:
Then parking space might be tricky, right?
Or upright like this?
I really want as much of a west-facing view and garden as possible. I tend to be an evening person and that side is less built up, due to the road. So I think more light comes through.
But the narrow floor plan caused lots of problems with the semi-detached house already. Well, here you could build longer instead.
What do you think?
Best regards
Tolentino
after sharing the floor plans of my possible hamster cage with you in the other thread , here comes the next thread (thanks again for all the constructive suggestions there).
Just so you know, the semi-detached house is not off the table yet, as this plot of land is highly sought after and it’s not clear whether it will work out. But this one would be my favorite.
Now to this plot. For now, I’m mainly concerned with where and roughly how the house should be positioned on this plot.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 500 m² (5400 sq ft)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio: 0.2
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) from the street, 3 m (10 ft) from neighbors
Edge development: allowed for garages and sheds, none existing on the plot
Number of parking spaces: 1-2
Number of floors: 1.5–2.5
Roof shape: no preference
Architectural style: no preference
Orientation: aligned parallel to the street
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height max. 9 m (30 ft)
Below are the site plans I created myself based on the details from the listing.
This is a rough overview of the plot with building boundaries and dimensions.
My question is: where to put the house?
The broker suggests placing it towards the back, since you already have the 5 m (16 ft) setback at the front and would “gain” about 3 m (10 ft) of garden. My partner doesn’t like this because of the visibility from the street. I say: privacy screen! But I also think, a fence too high might create a prison-yard feel.
But even if you follow this suggestion, I wonder if a more square floor plan (-> town villa style) would be better?
Like this, for example:
Then parking space might be tricky, right?
Or upright like this?
I really want as much of a west-facing view and garden as possible. I tend to be an evening person and that side is less built up, due to the road. So I think more light comes through.
But the narrow floor plan caused lots of problems with the semi-detached house already. Well, here you could build longer instead.
What do you think?
Best regards
Tolentino
Tolentino schrieb:
This will probably be a bit more expensive,Well, the carport bay roof is, of course, a birthday present, a Christmas gift, AND a reward for an A on the dictation test – just one OR isn’t enough anymore, so both grandmothers need to chip in together.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
Well, the carport bay roof is naturally a gift for birthdays, Christmas AND for getting an A in the dictation test – just one OR the other is no longer enough, so both grandmas need to chip in together A little bit of roofing isn’t exactly unaffordable. The carport is going to be built anyway, right? Around here, many people have similar structures, and we’re not exactly wealthy.
Dear all,
The architect’s draft has finally arrived.
Since lack of clarity has already been mentioned, I am attaching the standard questionnaire again here. I won’t open a new thread because some details can be better explained from the previous discussion. I will try to remember to post a link here every 7 posts.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 500 m² (5,382 sq ft)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio: §34, according to building authority: approx. 0.23
Floor area ratio: §34, building authority says approx. 0.4 / 0.46?
Building setback, building line, and boundary:
5 m (16 ft) from the street, 3 m (10 ft) from neighbours, see site plan. (4.5 m (15 ft) to the northeast boundary, as a pedestrian, driving and utility right of way of 4.5 m (15 ft) is required for the rear neighbour (southeast) and the development road)
Adjacent buildings: none present (or will be demolished). Planning option: carport and shed at rear neighbour (SE)
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of stories: 2
Roof style: hipped roof (current planning status, other roof types possible)
Architectural style: urban villa
Orientation: NW - SE
Maximum height / limits: ridge height max. 9 m (29.5 ft) (according to city planning management)
Other requirements: “Should fit into the neighborhood”
Homeowner requirements
Style, roof type, building type:
Simple, modern, restrained, no other preference by homeowners (TE), symmetry, large windows, spacious rooms, space and light for plants for the homeowner.
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number and age of people:
3 people currently, 5 planned (39, 29, 8, x, y).
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor: (living room / kitchen), guest shower room, utility / laundry room, office.
Upper floor: 4 bedrooms, 1 bathroom (bathtub + shower).
Office: home office
Guest stays per year: max. 20 persons/nights
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open, island optional but not required
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo setup: home cinema: 3 speakers near TV, 2 behind/next to viewers, 1 subwoofer relatively free positioning.
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: appreciated but not essential, can be added later (budget constraints).
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: preferably later
My partner and I have staggered daily schedules. I get up around 6 a.m. and go to bed by midnight at the latest.
She sometimes also gets up to take our child to school but then goes back to bed. Normally, she goes to sleep around 3–4 a.m.
Because of this, a walk-in closet (not accessed through the bedroom) would be ideal, but probably not feasible due to limited space. We have basically agreed that I will choose and prepare my clothes the evening before.
House design
Who created the plan:
- Architect commissioned through the general contractor (GÜ)
What do you particularly like? Why?
Living rooms and children’s rooms have southern exposure.
4 bedrooms included, office included, guest shower room included. Coat storage allocated in the entrance hall.
Utility room placed in the northeast corner (less attractive location), second entrance near parking space, large open area in the southwest.
Maximized contiguous garden space.
What do you dislike? Why?
The open area is currently a long corridor and might feel tunnel-like and not open. The architect believes it won’t seem tunnel-like if the ceiling height is at least 2.50 m (8 ft 2 in) and the windows are high enough.
Utility room is not on the living level. Children’s rooms are a bit complicated and not fairly divided.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
$252,500 excluding painting, carpet, tiles, excluding energy costs & additional construction costs, excluding exterior work
Fixed price general contractor
Personal price limit for house including fittings:
$300,000 excluding energy costs, additional construction costs, furniture & kitchen
Preferred heating technology:
Air-to-water heat pump (included in house price)
If you have to cut back, on which details/extensions:
-could be omitted:
Photovoltaics, carport/garage can be added later, exterior landscaping can be done later, separate walk-in closet.
-cannot be omitted:
Separate office, guest shower room.
Why is the draft designed the way it is?
The architect worked based on the initial self-draft and then made further modifications following change requests during phone calls.
What do you consider particularly good or bad about it?
I actually like it now and can imagine it well. I am mainly looking here for warnings about anything that absolutely wouldn’t work and suggestions for optimization.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Are there obvious faults, traps, or impossibilities?
Should the windows on the NW side be larger (wider)? Floor-to-ceiling windows on ground floor NW (street) side?
Notes on the images:
The kitchen dining table will probably be different. I would make the peninsula narrower and place a bench or directly chairs on the opposite side.
Site plan: I have agreed with the rear neighbour to keep our distance to the northeast boundary more like 4.5 m (15 ft) instead of 5 m (16 ft). A 3 m (10 ft) driveway with 0.5 m (2 ft) on one side and 1 m (3 ft) on the other side is sufficient for us.
We are allowed to use their property to turn around (it is clear that this will not become a building burden).
Many thanks in advance for all constructive feedback.
Best regards,
Tolentino
The architect’s draft has finally arrived.
Since lack of clarity has already been mentioned, I am attaching the standard questionnaire again here. I won’t open a new thread because some details can be better explained from the previous discussion. I will try to remember to post a link here every 7 posts.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 500 m² (5,382 sq ft)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio: §34, according to building authority: approx. 0.23
Floor area ratio: §34, building authority says approx. 0.4 / 0.46?
Building setback, building line, and boundary:
5 m (16 ft) from the street, 3 m (10 ft) from neighbours, see site plan. (4.5 m (15 ft) to the northeast boundary, as a pedestrian, driving and utility right of way of 4.5 m (15 ft) is required for the rear neighbour (southeast) and the development road)
Adjacent buildings: none present (or will be demolished). Planning option: carport and shed at rear neighbour (SE)
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of stories: 2
Roof style: hipped roof (current planning status, other roof types possible)
Architectural style: urban villa
Orientation: NW - SE
Maximum height / limits: ridge height max. 9 m (29.5 ft) (according to city planning management)
Other requirements: “Should fit into the neighborhood”
Homeowner requirements
Style, roof type, building type:
Simple, modern, restrained, no other preference by homeowners (TE), symmetry, large windows, spacious rooms, space and light for plants for the homeowner.
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number and age of people:
3 people currently, 5 planned (39, 29, 8, x, y).
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor: (living room / kitchen), guest shower room, utility / laundry room, office.
Upper floor: 4 bedrooms, 1 bathroom (bathtub + shower).
Office: home office
Guest stays per year: max. 20 persons/nights
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open, island optional but not required
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo setup: home cinema: 3 speakers near TV, 2 behind/next to viewers, 1 subwoofer relatively free positioning.
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: appreciated but not essential, can be added later (budget constraints).
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: preferably later
My partner and I have staggered daily schedules. I get up around 6 a.m. and go to bed by midnight at the latest.
She sometimes also gets up to take our child to school but then goes back to bed. Normally, she goes to sleep around 3–4 a.m.
Because of this, a walk-in closet (not accessed through the bedroom) would be ideal, but probably not feasible due to limited space. We have basically agreed that I will choose and prepare my clothes the evening before.
House design
Who created the plan:
- Architect commissioned through the general contractor (GÜ)
What do you particularly like? Why?
Living rooms and children’s rooms have southern exposure.
4 bedrooms included, office included, guest shower room included. Coat storage allocated in the entrance hall.
Utility room placed in the northeast corner (less attractive location), second entrance near parking space, large open area in the southwest.
Maximized contiguous garden space.
What do you dislike? Why?
The open area is currently a long corridor and might feel tunnel-like and not open. The architect believes it won’t seem tunnel-like if the ceiling height is at least 2.50 m (8 ft 2 in) and the windows are high enough.
Utility room is not on the living level. Children’s rooms are a bit complicated and not fairly divided.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
$252,500 excluding painting, carpet, tiles, excluding energy costs & additional construction costs, excluding exterior work
Fixed price general contractor
Personal price limit for house including fittings:
$300,000 excluding energy costs, additional construction costs, furniture & kitchen
Preferred heating technology:
Air-to-water heat pump (included in house price)
If you have to cut back, on which details/extensions:
-could be omitted:
Photovoltaics, carport/garage can be added later, exterior landscaping can be done later, separate walk-in closet.
-cannot be omitted:
Separate office, guest shower room.
Why is the draft designed the way it is?
The architect worked based on the initial self-draft and then made further modifications following change requests during phone calls.
What do you consider particularly good or bad about it?
I actually like it now and can imagine it well. I am mainly looking here for warnings about anything that absolutely wouldn’t work and suggestions for optimization.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Are there obvious faults, traps, or impossibilities?
Should the windows on the NW side be larger (wider)? Floor-to-ceiling windows on ground floor NW (street) side?
Notes on the images:
The kitchen dining table will probably be different. I would make the peninsula narrower and place a bench or directly chairs on the opposite side.
Site plan: I have agreed with the rear neighbour to keep our distance to the northeast boundary more like 4.5 m (15 ft) instead of 5 m (16 ft). A 3 m (10 ft) driveway with 0.5 m (2 ft) on one side and 1 m (3 ft) on the other side is sufficient for us.
We are allowed to use their property to turn around (it is clear that this will not become a building burden).
Many thanks in advance for all constructive feedback.
Best regards,
Tolentino
Similar topics