ᐅ Security ratings RC2, RC2N, and electronic intruder protection
Created on: 17 Jan 2020 08:51
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Bauherr am L
Dear building professionals,
The topic of burglary security comes up here from time to time. Our house will be fitted with about 8-10 tilt-and-turn windows accessible at ground level, and we are wondering how to make it more difficult for burglars. Our window supplier offers fittings rated RC2 or similar to RC2, priced at around 275 euros per tilt-and-turn sash plus lockable window handles for about 50 euros each.
As far as I understand the security classes, this would be RC2N since the glass itself does not yet meet the higher requirements. For that, the outer pane would need to be P4A, right? Would this then even be laminated into the frame? If you use RC2 fittings, is it strongly recommended to also use P4A glass?
In addition, we have two lift-and-slide units that we could also upgrade with RC2 fittings. However, I wonder how burglars would be able to pry open a lift-and-slide door sash weighing several hundred kilograms?
There is also the option to install electronic window contacts: ROTO MVS VdS C at approximately 175 euros each and locking contact sensors VdS C for multipoint locking at about 160 euros each.
That adds up quite a bit. Regarding the electronic contacts, I still don’t fully understand what would be sensible. Has anyone here dealt with this topic and could provide advice?
In general: the area where we are building is considered to have an average risk of burglary. There are about 70 houses on the street, most of them older, where a burglar might get in more quickly, but our house will clearly be one of the newer and more expensive-looking ones, which might make it more attractive as a target?
Thanks and best regards with a stuffy head
The topic of burglary security comes up here from time to time. Our house will be fitted with about 8-10 tilt-and-turn windows accessible at ground level, and we are wondering how to make it more difficult for burglars. Our window supplier offers fittings rated RC2 or similar to RC2, priced at around 275 euros per tilt-and-turn sash plus lockable window handles for about 50 euros each.
As far as I understand the security classes, this would be RC2N since the glass itself does not yet meet the higher requirements. For that, the outer pane would need to be P4A, right? Would this then even be laminated into the frame? If you use RC2 fittings, is it strongly recommended to also use P4A glass?
In addition, we have two lift-and-slide units that we could also upgrade with RC2 fittings. However, I wonder how burglars would be able to pry open a lift-and-slide door sash weighing several hundred kilograms?
There is also the option to install electronic window contacts: ROTO MVS VdS C at approximately 175 euros each and locking contact sensors VdS C for multipoint locking at about 160 euros each.
That adds up quite a bit. Regarding the electronic contacts, I still don’t fully understand what would be sensible. Has anyone here dealt with this topic and could provide advice?
In general: the area where we are building is considered to have an average risk of burglary. There are about 70 houses on the street, most of them older, where a burglar might get in more quickly, but our house will clearly be one of the newer and more expensive-looking ones, which might make it more attractive as a target?
Thanks and best regards with a stuffy head
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Bauherr am L17 Jan 2020 12:24Mycraft schrieb:
175€ is certainly quite high, I would rather hire someone else or do it myself. That would be the surcharge charged directly by the window manufacturer. It includes the materials, drilling, installation, etc. In the end, a cable will be exiting the frame at the desired location.
Do you think that’s too expensive?
Bauherr am L schrieb:
The additional cost would be charged directly by the window manufacturer. This includes the material, drilling, installation, etc. In the end, a cable hangs out of the frame at the desired location.
Do you think that's too expensive? So it's not even the full cost including the electrical connection?! Ouch.
In my opinion, anything over €50 (about $55) would be too much; we paid less.
For me, the most important thing is that the windows hold up for a few minutes. According to statistics/police reports, burglars give up after that. I think being better protected than the neighbors is also a good idea.
Sensors that detect whether windows are open or closed are of no value to me, since by then it’s already too late. I also don’t need them to check if I’ve closed everything myself.
Sensors that detect whether windows are open or closed are of no value to me, since by then it’s already too late. I also don’t need them to check if I’ve closed everything myself.
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