ᐅ Future Vision: Construction Mistakes of Today

Created on: 14 Nov 2019 16:24
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Fummelbrett!
Hello everyone,

I have often wondered what typical “building mistakes” from the 2010s and 2020s will be seen as in a few decades. Would you like to speculate together?

I mean, in the 1970s, it was considered stylish and modern to cover bathroom walls with brown tiles all the way to the ceiling and combine them with sunny yellow sanitary ceramics. Back then, no one could have imagined that this would one day be regarded as unattractive.

Will vinyl flooring and laundry connections on the first floor be seen as typical but now outdated features of our time? Floor-to-ceiling windows? “Smokey eyes” (dark window tinting)? Which elements will make the next generation shake their heads and wonder about our questionable taste?
11ant16 Nov 2019 15:57
I see the external thermal insulation composite system (ETICS) as less of a problem: there are so many buildings with it that a renovation method for these structures—if it should ever be considered necessary—would have a sufficiently large market. In other words, no one will suffer long from the lack of ideas on how to address it.

I find it far more harmful to resale value to subdivide plots into very small lots and build houses that are also too small, simply to reduce single-family homes to a size that even people with actually too little money can "afford": basements omitted not as a personal choice, but purely to save money on parts of the house hidden above ground level; and then a simple box with a footprint of nine and a half meters (about 31 feet) per side is placed on top, with a tent-like roof instead of a proper pitched roof. Essentially, a modern, stylish version of a Quonset hut (sorry that younger readers may have to Google that).

In my opinion, these pseudo-mansions (and poorly planned semi-detached houses resembling bowling alleys) will be the losers of the next real estate bubble. Where possible, they will be bought in pairs with the neighboring property and demolished—where that’s not possible, they will be purchased by families whose neighbors will respond to this "alternative" by shifting the social makeup of their neighborhood.
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Fummelbrett!
16 Nov 2019 16:00
bauenmk2020 schrieb:

One of the biggest building mistakes these days seems to be the thermal insulation systems on house façades, especially those made of synthetic materials rather than mineral wool. Homeowners will likely face a lot of frustration when it comes to renewing or disposing of these materials...

Oh yes, I agree. My mother-in-law had her house insulated like this about 10 years ago, and it already doesn’t look very good anymore. That stuff must be expensive to dispose of, right?
What about the disposal of photovoltaic panels? Has anyone had experience with that? Are they unproblematic?

I imagine open staircases or generally very open designs with large volume spaces can be difficult with children.
Will open kitchens eventually become outdated?
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Fummelbrett!
16 Nov 2019 16:09
11ant schrieb:

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In my opinion, these "Instead Villas" (and the poorly planned bowling alley-style semi-detached house) will be the losers in the next real estate bubble. Where possible, buyers will purchase them together with the neighboring property to demolish them—where not, families will buy them, and their neighbors will respond by choosing an "alternative," leading to a social restructuring of the neighborhood.

Oh yes. And what I notice is that every tiny patch of land is being developed. Even areas that barely get any sunlight. Here, there is such a semi-detached house, squeezed between neighboring homes, with living rooms facing north. It was at least advertised as having a "natural sunshade" that makes "expensive shading" unnecessary. The original lot would have been perfect for placing two attractive detached houses—totaling 1,400 sqm (15,070 sq ft). Instead, they built three semi-detached houses.
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Müllerin
16 Nov 2019 17:13
I think in the future we will have to say goodbye to single-family homes with large gardens—at least near cities. The keyword here is densification. It’s not how I want to live with a child, but it certainly makes sense.
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Pinkiponk
17 Nov 2019 10:45
11ant schrieb:

... (and poorly constructed bowling alley semi-detached house) are ...
I’m asking now because it has been bothering me since yesterday, and I couldn’t find anything on Google: What does "unkonzentriert" mean ... or the full term "unkonzentriert gebaute Kegelbahn-Doppelhaushälfte"? Since I’m familiar with some of your posts, I know there is some clever meaning behind it; I just didn’t understand what.
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danixf
17 Nov 2019 11:34
11ant schrieb:

I consider it much more harmful for resale value to divide plots into very small lots and build houses that are also too small, just to shrink homes to a size that even people with actually too little money can "afford":

I don't see it that way. The middle class, if you can even call it that, will never have enough money without an inheritance to afford a larger plot near the city. At least this way there is a terrace and four rooms for the family. Most people don’t even need more, and many are not willing to spend much time maintaining a large garden. The primary goal is also to do something for retirement security, since many find it difficult to invest in stocks or similar. Although the latter would be more sensible, it requires experience. It’s easier to get a bank loan and set aside a few hundred dollars each month in a separate account for savings.

You have to keep this in mind. An income of 100,000 (currency unspecified) nowadays is just about enough for such projects. (Didn’t someone recently say the top 10% earn 90,000 (currency unspecified)?) A standard semi-detached house plus 250sqm (about 2,700 sqft) now costs over 500,000 (currency unspecified) here. In the commuter belt, it’s around 400,000 to 500,000 (currency unspecified).
11ant schrieb:

Basements are not omitted due to personal preference, but simply to save the money for house parts that are not visible above the ground level;
I agree with you on that, but the 60,000+ (currency unspecified) for a basement is basically the entire landscaping, garage, and interior furnishings. What sells better on Instagram?
Müllerin schrieb:

I think in the future we’ll have to say goodbye to single-family homes with large gardens—at least near cities.
The keyword is infill development. It’s not how I want to live with children, but it’s certainly very practical.

99% of children won’t care at all whether they grow up in a two-room apartment or on a farm. They adapt to almost anything, and there is no envy factor regarding a large plot. The only ones who might object to such living arrangements are the parents, but it’s indifferent to the children.