Hello everyone,
after we secured our plot, we spoke to several construction companies. Some only offer the building volume and want to create the floor plan after signing the contract. That feels a bit like “buying a pig in a poke” to us.
One company approached things differently and, after a several-hour discussion, presented a concept that we would like to share and discuss with you here.
Here is first the questionnaire:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot: F 1.6
Plot size: 394 m² (14.7 x 26.8 meters), no slope
Building envelope: 8.7 x 12.0 meters (11.7 x 12.0 meters minus 3 meters (10 feet) setback towards the east)
Orientation: Southeast to south
Floor area ratio / site coverage ratio: 0.4 / 0.8
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories (additional stepped-back floor is allowed)
Roof type: flat roof
Energy standard: at least KFW 55
Energy sources: photovoltaic system and air-to-water heat pump or ground-to-water heat pump
Homeowners’ Requirements
The architectural style, roof shape, and building type are basically set by the development plan and are acceptable to us (otherwise, we would not have applied for the plot).
We (2 adults and 2 elementary school children) plan to build without a basement, with 2 full stories, and a 9-meter (30 feet) garage. Our planned energy source is a ground-to-water heat pump.
We need 1 bedroom, 2 children’s rooms, 1 office (for home office), kitchen, living and dining room, guest toilet (without shower), bathroom (with shower and bathtub), cloakroom as a built-in wardrobe, and of course a utility room. Additionally, storage space is required. We do not expect overnight guests.
We are aiming for a rather modern design with an open kitchen (with a peninsula) and an L-shaped living and dining area (6 dining seats, no fireplace).
Since we do not want a “traditional” entrance canopy, we would prefer a “modern” solution.
House Design
The design comes from a medium-sized general contractor in the region, with its own project draftsmen and an architect.
What we particularly like is that all our requirements have already been fully implemented in the first draft. Even extras like a bench and an interior light well, which we only mentioned in passing, have been included. In our view, the entrance canopy was also well realized, even if it costs a few square meters of living space.
Especially the storage spaces (and the cloakroom) were very well implemented from our point of view. In the first draft, the bathroom was 2.5 m² (27 sqft) smaller, and there was a storage room in front of it. Instead of the fixed storage room, there is now space in the hallway to optionally place a (built-in) closet or remove it later when the children no longer live at home. This redesign also made it possible to add an additional window in the bathroom. Whether this is really necessary is still open.
The kitchen and living/dining area were efficiently designed despite the 42 m² (452 sqft) size.
The guest toilet might be a bit oversized, but worse things exist.
The office window might look better if centered in the room, but the window below it in the kitchen makes this more difficult.
The window in the bedroom behind/above the bed may not be perfect either. We have considered several options and concluded that this is the best solution.
With 16 windows, the house feels like it has quite a lot. We wouldn’t know which one to give up—except maybe the second window in the bathroom. We are also wondering whether the large window in the dining area really needs to be that big.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Do you have any suggestions on what we could adjust in the floor plan? Any ideas about the windows (large one in dining, two floor-to-ceiling in bathroom, central in office, behind/above bed in bedroom)? Perhaps we can discuss the kitchen layout here or in a separate thread later.







after we secured our plot, we spoke to several construction companies. Some only offer the building volume and want to create the floor plan after signing the contract. That feels a bit like “buying a pig in a poke” to us.
One company approached things differently and, after a several-hour discussion, presented a concept that we would like to share and discuss with you here.
Here is first the questionnaire:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot: F 1.6
Plot size: 394 m² (14.7 x 26.8 meters), no slope
Building envelope: 8.7 x 12.0 meters (11.7 x 12.0 meters minus 3 meters (10 feet) setback towards the east)
Orientation: Southeast to south
Floor area ratio / site coverage ratio: 0.4 / 0.8
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories (additional stepped-back floor is allowed)
Roof type: flat roof
Energy standard: at least KFW 55
Energy sources: photovoltaic system and air-to-water heat pump or ground-to-water heat pump
Homeowners’ Requirements
The architectural style, roof shape, and building type are basically set by the development plan and are acceptable to us (otherwise, we would not have applied for the plot).
We (2 adults and 2 elementary school children) plan to build without a basement, with 2 full stories, and a 9-meter (30 feet) garage. Our planned energy source is a ground-to-water heat pump.
We need 1 bedroom, 2 children’s rooms, 1 office (for home office), kitchen, living and dining room, guest toilet (without shower), bathroom (with shower and bathtub), cloakroom as a built-in wardrobe, and of course a utility room. Additionally, storage space is required. We do not expect overnight guests.
We are aiming for a rather modern design with an open kitchen (with a peninsula) and an L-shaped living and dining area (6 dining seats, no fireplace).
Since we do not want a “traditional” entrance canopy, we would prefer a “modern” solution.
House Design
The design comes from a medium-sized general contractor in the region, with its own project draftsmen and an architect.
What we particularly like is that all our requirements have already been fully implemented in the first draft. Even extras like a bench and an interior light well, which we only mentioned in passing, have been included. In our view, the entrance canopy was also well realized, even if it costs a few square meters of living space.
Especially the storage spaces (and the cloakroom) were very well implemented from our point of view. In the first draft, the bathroom was 2.5 m² (27 sqft) smaller, and there was a storage room in front of it. Instead of the fixed storage room, there is now space in the hallway to optionally place a (built-in) closet or remove it later when the children no longer live at home. This redesign also made it possible to add an additional window in the bathroom. Whether this is really necessary is still open.
The kitchen and living/dining area were efficiently designed despite the 42 m² (452 sqft) size.
The guest toilet might be a bit oversized, but worse things exist.
The office window might look better if centered in the room, but the window below it in the kitchen makes this more difficult.
The window in the bedroom behind/above the bed may not be perfect either. We have considered several options and concluded that this is the best solution.
With 16 windows, the house feels like it has quite a lot. We wouldn’t know which one to give up—except maybe the second window in the bathroom. We are also wondering whether the large window in the dining area really needs to be that big.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Do you have any suggestions on what we could adjust in the floor plan? Any ideas about the windows (large one in dining, two floor-to-ceiling in bathroom, central in office, behind/above bed in bedroom)? Perhaps we can discuss the kitchen layout here or in a separate thread later.
kaho674 schrieb:
Have you already decided? Yes.
We went through the different bedroom layout options several times and concluded that the original version (with the window behind the bed) is the best for us.
We are now waiting for renderings with a slightly modified bedroom window (the sill height should be 12.5 cm (5 inches) lower... the window will still be high enough to place a bed headboard in front of it). It might also be a bit wider than the original 2.01 m (6 ft 7 in). Then we need to see how this looks visually together with the bathroom window. If necessary, we might choose a floor-to-ceiling window in the bathroom with a permanent pleated blind at the bottom.
kaho674 schrieb:
Here’s a genuine stair with a landing (no angled steps) again Also a very attractive floor plan with additional storage spaces in the entrance area and corridor.
But we prefer ours more, for example the open staircase in the entrance hall.
kaho674 schrieb:
Or maybe with a small door recess after all? You did manage to add a recess after all.
But here again, we prefer our own recess better.
kaho674 schrieb:
A cute little box! I apologize in advance for interacting so much in your thread. No problem... I appreciate you giving us ideas on how else we could solve things.
-SCEPS- schrieb:
We went through the different bedroom layout options several times and concluded that the original version (with the window behind the bed) is the best choice for us. And where should the closet be placed? If it is on the door side, you might be able to position the bed along the opposite wall with a room width of 3.40 meters (11 feet 2 inches). Be flexible with the electrical outlets so you can rearrange the bed if needed.
ypg schrieb:
And where is the cabinet supposed to be placed? I think he means like in #1. The cabinet is 3 meters (10 feet) long – it can only be positioned as shown in the picture, right?ypg schrieb:
And where is the cabinet supposed to be placed?kaho674 schrieb:
I think he means like in #1. The cabinet is 3 m (10 ft) long – so it can only be positioned as shown, right?Correct, as in post 1.Due to the adjusted height of the bedroom window, we now have a new view and an alternative with 1.01 m (1.1 yards) wide windows in the bathroom, utility room, and WC. The 1.01 m (1.1 yards) window width didn’t appeal to us visually, but it made us wonder whether the rough opening window width of 76 cm (30 inches) with a glass width of 48–50 cm (19–20 inches) would be sufficient?
In the WC, cloakroom, hallway, and the two windows in the bathroom, this is probably okay, right?
In the utility room, due to the north-facing wall and the recess, there is probably not much daylight entering the space. On the other hand, since the utility room door will likely remain open when briefly entering the room, some additional light should come in that way.
We are therefore considering replacing the 76 cm (30 inches) windows with 88.5 cm (35 inches) wide ones… but this would affect most of the windows. Then, the children’s bedroom windows would probably also need to become wider (so instead of 2 x 76 cm (30 inches) [151 cm (60 inches)] it would be 2 x 88.5 cm (35 inches) [178 cm (70 inches)]), although this would reduce the available space for furniture again.
Another idea would be to move the utility room window from the north side to the east side. Would that help at all, except that the furniture layout in the utility room might become less ideal?
And once we finally decide on the windows, there will surely be other questions, for example about the terrace. Can I ask those here as well, or should I move to another section of the forum for that?
-SCEPS- schrieb:
And when we finally finish with the windows, there will probably be some other questions, for example about the terrace. Can I ask those here as well, or should I go to a different section of the forum? That probably depends on personal preference; either way, it is usually appreciated (especially by regular visitors who typically follow entire projects) if the new thread includes a link to the original thread in the first post.
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