ᐅ My floor plan for a four-family house—looking forward to your feedback.
Created on: 21 Feb 2019 18:16
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dobbelhaus
I have already shared my project here before. I want to build a single-family house with two residential buildings (a semi-detached house) and a total of four housing units in a new development area. These apartments are initially intended for rent, but might be used later for personal use or family.
The two residential units should be easy to combine without major work. For now, the ground floor forms one unit, and the upper floor plus the attic together form another unit (maisonette).
I would have preferred the bathrooms and kitchens to have windows. The architect did not include this in the first floor plan draft and says it is basically okay this way, but difficult to implement otherwise.
Since the two front doors are located on the south and north sides of the house, and the living room is on the west side (with a terrace), it is naturally not easy to design all rooms with windows.
I would like to get your opinions on the floor plan for this four-family house and maybe some suggestions so I can contribute to the discussion with the architect next week.
Thank you!
The two residential units should be easy to combine without major work. For now, the ground floor forms one unit, and the upper floor plus the attic together form another unit (maisonette).
I would have preferred the bathrooms and kitchens to have windows. The architect did not include this in the first floor plan draft and says it is basically okay this way, but difficult to implement otherwise.
Since the two front doors are located on the south and north sides of the house, and the living room is on the west side (with a terrace), it is naturally not easy to design all rooms with windows.
I would like to get your opinions on the floor plan for this four-family house and maybe some suggestions so I can contribute to the discussion with the architect next week.
Thank you!
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dobbelhaus22 Feb 2019 11:48haydee schrieb:
Family downstairs
Singles and couples upstairs
Offering a garden sounds great in theory, but in practice it’s impractical because it often goes unused
Great if you can choose your tenants. Many will rent the apartment but keep looking. YPG has told you this several times already.
RomeZwo took the time to sketch it out Family with child/children in the smaller apartment and singles in the 125 m2 (1,345 sq ft) apartment? No, thank you
If a family does not use the 75 m2 (807 sq ft) private, fenced garden with a garden shed, barbecue area, etc. because it is 18 steps and 5 m (16 ft) away, I can’t do anything about that…
dobbelhaus schrieb:
The kitchen rearrangement is intended to improve ventilation while cooking There will definitely be a range hood and hopefully also a mechanical ventilation system, right? I can only speak from my own experience, but I cook a lot and never feel the need to open windows for ventilation. Therefore, I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on the possibility of natural ventilation.
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Matthew0322 Feb 2019 12:23dobbelhaus schrieb:
Family with child/children in the smaller apartment and singles in the 125 m2 (1345 sq ft) apartment? No, thank you.
If a family won’t use the 75 m2 (807 sq ft) private, fenced garden with a garden shed, barbecue area, etc., because it is 18 steps away and 5 m (16 ft) distant, then that’s not my fault.A typical case of "theory versus practice"... you haven’t understood the criticism so far, or worse, you don’t want to understand it. From your point of view, you see yourself as a nice landlord who even offers a garden—others don’t do that. Try to break free from that mindset and take the criticism seriously, not just superficially as you have done until now.
In my “old” apartment, for example, the families of three living on 90 m2 (970 sq ft) had direct garden access downstairs, while the single household lived upstairs in a 130 m2 (1399 sq ft) maisonette—that’s where the grand piano was, etc. That’s how it works in practice.
dobbelhaus schrieb:
Since the two main entrances are located on both sides of the house (south/north), and the living room is on the west side (terrace), it is naturally not easy to have all rooms with windows.ypg schrieb:
This has nothing to do with "thin" walls. Some things just aren’t possible. Take a look at the client’s requirements (4 housing units) and the plot of land.Unfortunately, I don’t remember the OP’s other threads, but why do there have to be two entrances? Is it due to the building permit / planning permission?Having only one entrance saves space and allows for windows in the bathroom:
(The layout is generally similar)
dobbelhaus schrieb:
I would suggest the following changes:
-Bring the kitchens on both floors to the window side
-Make the apartment entrance door left-hand opening
-Standardize the staircase direction; choose the north-side variant
-Reduce the living/dining areas by approximately 5-7 m2 (54-75 sq ft) on both floors, enlarge the bedrooms by 2-3 m2 (22-32 sq ft), and add a 3-4 m2 (32-43 sq ft) storage room next to the bathrooms.
-Modify the windows on the east side (bedroom windows facing north-south instead of east, reduce the children's room window by 0.6 m (2 feet)) to provide more privacy for the rear gardens of the maisonette apartments.
-On the attic floor, create a larger bathroom with a bathtub and window, while making the heating/storage room smaller.dobbelhaus schrieb:
What exactly do you find wrong with my change requests? Could you please briefly explain?Here it is written:ypg schrieb:
How should it be done better? Greed clouds judgment. Instead of building four poorly planned apartments, where tenants usually only stay for one or two years before upgrading to something bigger (without caring about high-quality fittings, which would also increase the rent somewhat), or where they could better realize their own needs, I would recommend a different layout, with only three units. Downstairs space for a family of four who want a garden, upstairs smart apartments with a maisonette style.dobbelhaus schrieb:
Family with children in the smaller apartment and singles in the 125 m2 (1345 sq ft) apartment? No, thanks That was never written here! Everyone here rejects your fundamental layout of the entire building.
dobbelhaus schrieb:
If a family doesn’t use the 75 m2 (807 sq ft) private, fenced garden with a garden shed, barbecue area, etc., because it is 18 steps up and 5 m (16 feet) away, there’s nothing I can do about that..That just doesn’t work in practice! I wouldn’t do that even as a single person.
Niloa schrieb:
There will surely be a range hood and hopefully a mechanical ventilation system too, right?I would assume so as well. A range hood comes before electric roller shutters and underfloor heating — even in a rental apartment. I’ve lived in several, including older, simpler ones with my parents. They all had a range hood, since around 1980 also vented outside.
Matthew03 schrieb:
Typical case of “theory versus practice”… you haven’t understood the criticism so far, or worse, you don’t want to. From your point of view, you’re a nice landlord even offering a garden, which others don’t… Try to let go of that and take the criticism seriously, not just superficially as you have so far…There is some truth to that.
Matthew03 schrieb:
In my “old” apartment, for example, downstairs were the three-person families on 90 m2 (969 sq ft) with direct garden access, and upstairs the single household with a maisonette on 130 m2 (1399 sq ft) — where the piano was located, etc. — that’s the reality.Exactly how it looks!
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