ᐅ Log Cabin Construction: Solid Timber vs. Frame Building – Experiences?
Created on: 4 Feb 2019 21:58
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Lucrezia
A year ago, it was clear: log house, nothing else (we had an experienced company, but unfortunately no general contractor). Since we got in touch with a general contractor specializing in timber frame construction who convinced us, I have been going around in circles. Since I have already received many helpful ideas and tips in this forum, I would like to invite you to share your thoughts on this. I’ll start with the advantages and disadvantages we have noticed:
Log house:
+ Only untreated wood, so "minimalist" and with very low chemical exposure
+ Short waiting and construction time
- Trades must be contracted separately (we would not take on any work ourselves, except possibly flooring)
- Prices can fluctuate more significantly
- Warranty is "only" 15 years on structural components (5 years on the rest)
Timber frame construction:
+ General contractor, so "worry-free"
+ Accurate price quote (fixed price)
+ 30-year warranty on structural components – waiting and construction time somewhat longer
-/+ Wood only in the “frame”; (eco-friendly) materials can be freely chosen
Log house:
+ Only untreated wood, so "minimalist" and with very low chemical exposure
+ Short waiting and construction time
- Trades must be contracted separately (we would not take on any work ourselves, except possibly flooring)
- Prices can fluctuate more significantly
- Warranty is "only" 15 years on structural components (5 years on the rest)
Timber frame construction:
+ General contractor, so "worry-free"
+ Accurate price quote (fixed price)
+ 30-year warranty on structural components – waiting and construction time somewhat longer
-/+ Wood only in the “frame”; (eco-friendly) materials can be freely chosen
It’s not possible to make a general statement about this.
In our demolition, much of the wood was untreated.
Supposedly, this is not necessary if the wood was cut during a specific lunar phase and at a certain time of year (according to the old wood experts from the village, and my grandfather also swore by this – and the condition of the barn seemed to prove him right).
This might still work if you’re cutting trees in your own forest, but it’s not feasible on an industrial scale or at a reasonable cost. Once insulation and other materials come into play, it’s a different matter.
Weak points in the old timber frame construction always appeared where modern building materials, such as polystyrene wallpaper or PVC flooring, were used.
In our demolition, much of the wood was untreated.
Supposedly, this is not necessary if the wood was cut during a specific lunar phase and at a certain time of year (according to the old wood experts from the village, and my grandfather also swore by this – and the condition of the barn seemed to prove him right).
This might still work if you’re cutting trees in your own forest, but it’s not feasible on an industrial scale or at a reasonable cost. Once insulation and other materials come into play, it’s a different matter.
Weak points in the old timber frame construction always appeared where modern building materials, such as polystyrene wallpaper or PVC flooring, were used.
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wurmwichtel14 Feb 2019 12:32Lumpi_LE schrieb:
...Unfortunately, you have no idea, but that’s not a problem unless you are an engineer. Cheap answer from a seller who’s worried about his arguments!
A 10% higher construction cost for 50% lower heating expenses actually means spending more than €25,000 (about $27,000) extra to save €30 (about $33) per month.
Don’t tell me about spending and saving! I have calculated it and won’t let myself be fooled by sales talk!
haydee schrieb:
...Weak spots in old timber frame houses were always where modern building materials like polystyrene wallpaper, PVC flooring, etc. were used. The timber frame was not designed for today’s airtight construction methods. Air circulation was allowed within houses, and usually only one room, mostly the kitchen, was heated.
That was no problem back then, but the concept of heating only one room while leaving others unheated would be a death sentence for new builds today.
Regarding the topic, with a request to complete:
Advantages of solid wood walls:
- Moisture regulating
- Aesthetic appeal (for fans of this building method)
Disadvantages:
- Expensive
- Plumbing and electrical installations must be fully planned and defined during the design phase
Advantages of timber frame construction:
- Short erection time thanks to prefabricated component groups
Disadvantages:
- Plumbing and electrical installations must be fully planned and defined during the design phase
haydee schrieb:
What do you mean by solid wood wall? Solid wood refers to timber cut as it naturally grows; unlike “massive wood,” which only means that there is no engineered material between visible layers: laminated veneer lumber is also considered massive wood but not solid wood. Solid wood is less “eco-friendly” because it produces more waste and offcuts, which usually can only be processed further by machining. I consider laminated veneer lumber relatively more practical, but ultimately both mainly target the audience of “eco-bio trendy salon socialists” – basically the same people who fill their cars with nuclear power and whose floor heating groups consist of tens of thousands of batteries connected in series.
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