ᐅ Log Cabin Construction: Solid Timber vs. Frame Building – Experiences?

Created on: 4 Feb 2019 21:58
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Lucrezia
A year ago, it was clear: log house, nothing else (we had an experienced company, but unfortunately no general contractor). Since we got in touch with a general contractor specializing in timber frame construction who convinced us, I have been going around in circles. Since I have already received many helpful ideas and tips in this forum, I would like to invite you to share your thoughts on this. I’ll start with the advantages and disadvantages we have noticed:

Log house:

+ Only untreated wood, so "minimalist" and with very low chemical exposure
+ Short waiting and construction time
- Trades must be contracted separately (we would not take on any work ourselves, except possibly flooring)
- Prices can fluctuate more significantly
- Warranty is "only" 15 years on structural components (5 years on the rest)

Timber frame construction:

+ General contractor, so "worry-free"
+ Accurate price quote (fixed price)
+ 30-year warranty on structural components – waiting and construction time somewhat longer
-/+ Wood only in the “frame”; (eco-friendly) materials can be freely chosen
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haydee
20 Feb 2019 10:34
Building nothing or a tiny house without considering fire safety and other factors is not ecological.
Lucrezia20 Feb 2019 12:16
Sand is missing from your list: entire ecosystems and coastal landscapes are being destroyed because of it.
Yes, everything is relative, including building in an eco-friendly way. The most environmentally friendly option is not to build a new house at all.
Regarding hemp: it is a material with a very small ecological footprint, does not deplete the soil, and is highly versatile.
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haydee
20 Feb 2019 13:12
Sand does not really provide insulation. I was only referring to insulating materials, otherwise it would be endless. Lithium for photovoltaic systems, etc.

Hemp still uses agricultural farmland.
Ecologically probably good, but overall the global market price for food is rising.
Even in the Nabu list, if I’m not mistaken, polyester fibers are included. However, hemp requires no insect protection or fire retardants.
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haydee
20 Feb 2019 13:19
If the project with the mealworms and/or the system in the Netherlands works out, polystyrene should not be underestimated.
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Nordlys
20 Feb 2019 14:21
I thought this was about health, not ecology. Those are not the same. Our insulation is Knauf Insulation, glass wool, which does not emit substances and is a glass recycling product. No problem. Otherwise, our monolithic aerated concrete house only has insulation under the screed. They cannot release anything there either.
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Johann_s
27 Aug 2019 15:39
Lucrezia schrieb:

Exactly, we have solid wood panel suppliers nearby who build completely without glue—one uses aluminum pins, the other uses wooden screws. We find that quite interesting.

@Lucrezia:

Hello,

we are also facing similar decisions that you were facing or still facing in February.
Is the supplier using the aluminum pins M(assive)H(olz)M(auer), and is the other one "only wood"?

Which supplier did you decide on?

@all:
We visited a model home from Fullwood. The consultation was polite, but we had to extract all information ourselves, and after half an hour, we left feeling disappointed.

A few weeks ago, we visited Nordic-Haus—completely different experience.
We were advised personally by the owner, and after over four hours of consultation including visits to several houses, floor plans, and detailed price breakdowns of comparable houses already built, we came away with a really good feeling.
The large spruce beams were especially liked by my wife. Unfortunately, like at Fullwood, the beams are nowadays glued from several half-beams.
They also offer CLT (cross-laminated timber) in the form of their so-called “Sweden wall.” I found that attractive as well, but those boards are glued. Nordic uses only about 1% glue, but we actually want to build glue-free. Who knows what future discoveries might reveal—people probably thought asbestos was harmless at one time.

Price-wise, Nordic-Haus is within a reasonable range and quite transparent.

I’m interested in knowing the price levels at Thoma, MHM, and “only wood.”
Does anyone here have information on that?

I also obtained another quote from Hans-Georg Unterrainer (just Google or YouTube him—it’s very informative and thought-provoking). You can find him on Google under “Rast und Ruh.”
He even builds houses on ground anchors instead of concrete slab foundations, which are not entirely eco-friendly. So far, I’ve only found Krinner as a company offering ground anchors, and mostly only for garden houses and the like. However, the anchors apparently come in lengths of 2–3 meters (6.5–10 ft).

To all homeowners:
Has anyone built a fully solid wood house and had special experiences with it?

To home planners/builders:
What are your thoughts on the different suppliers and products?

Looking forward to all your replies,
the novice here