We have just received two quotes for windows. The building is an industrial facility undergoing renovation. There are 20 units, triple-glazed, approximately 1.60m x 1.20m (5.25 ft x 3.94 ft) including installation, white, with the same safety ratings.
Quote 1: about 35,000 Euros.
Quote 2: about 9,000 Euros.
That can’t be right? Is there some mistake? Did the second company make an error? Think again!
Quote 2 is from a German company offering windows sourced from Poland. Quote 1 is for windows made in Germany.
Quote 1: about 35,000 Euros.
Quote 2: about 9,000 Euros.
That can’t be right? Is there some mistake? Did the second company make an error? Think again!
Quote 2 is from a German company offering windows sourced from Poland. Quote 1 is for windows made in Germany.
Dr Hix schrieb:
this frame is called the "stop". Oh, I see.
Replacing these windows at this point in time seems to me like a complete nonsense; economically, you might as well just throw those windows away.
This would be putting the cart before the horse for the fifth time, and from a tax perspective, such blind actionism has never been sensible.
Not knowing much about certain things isn’t a shame. Many people seeking advice end up with charlatans, but in your case, it’s probably just an amateur—not the worst luck, at least. However, it will still be enough to waste a lot of money.
Your approach of “let’s just do things we can somewhat understand first so they are out of the way, and the entire investment doesn’t pile up in a single tax year” is common—but that doesn’t make it any better.
If I remember correctly, you once mentioned floor slabs that might still need to be replaced; and the usage concept still hasn’t been addressed. I can hardly imagine a worse time than now to supposedly tick off the window issue—though I probably shouldn’t say that, since I once bought my first car stereo before getting my driver’s license—but that’s a completely different financial matter.
What, in my opinion, is not outright nonsense is insulating the reveals, as they are naturally part of the building envelope. My general thought would be to use a more effective insulation material relative to the overall wall area but in a slimmer version; however, NOT NOW.
Measuring up to this point is about as sensible as installing downpipes before you have even decided where the bathrooms will go.
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This would be putting the cart before the horse for the fifth time, and from a tax perspective, such blind actionism has never been sensible.
Not knowing much about certain things isn’t a shame. Many people seeking advice end up with charlatans, but in your case, it’s probably just an amateur—not the worst luck, at least. However, it will still be enough to waste a lot of money.
Your approach of “let’s just do things we can somewhat understand first so they are out of the way, and the entire investment doesn’t pile up in a single tax year” is common—but that doesn’t make it any better.
If I remember correctly, you once mentioned floor slabs that might still need to be replaced; and the usage concept still hasn’t been addressed. I can hardly imagine a worse time than now to supposedly tick off the window issue—though I probably shouldn’t say that, since I once bought my first car stereo before getting my driver’s license—but that’s a completely different financial matter.
What, in my opinion, is not outright nonsense is insulating the reveals, as they are naturally part of the building envelope. My general thought would be to use a more effective insulation material relative to the overall wall area but in a slimmer version; however, NOT NOW.
Measuring up to this point is about as sensible as installing downpipes before you have even decided where the bathrooms will go.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
I know, I know, Thies. There are the owners with the decision-making power, and then there are those who are only allowed to give good advice. We both belong to the latter group.
I have already tried to talk them out of the window issue. On the other hand, it’s understandable: That’s 20,000 euros either going to the tax office or into a new window for the house, and it has to happen by March.
I have already tried to talk them out of the window issue. On the other hand, it’s understandable: That’s 20,000 euros either going to the tax office or into a new window for the house, and it has to happen by March.
kaho674 schrieb:
On the other hand, it’s understandable: Yes, of course. Your relatives are probably still from the generation of trained East German citizens. We don’t yet know whether deer or rabbits will be the ones to cross our path (and when); but lingonberries are on sale this week, and we need them for the sauce anyway, so they will be bought now. Makes sense
kaho674 schrieb:
That’s 20,000 euros that will either go to the tax office or be spent on new windows in the house, by March. No, those are new windows, which you have to explain to the tax office why they have to be replaced again in two years — partly because the window openings will be changed again, and partly because they got damaged during the construction phase.
But I know Starsinn, from father-in-laws, twice over, over 70 and from Westphalia *smile*
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11ant schrieb:
Sure. Your relatives are probably still from the generation of trained former East German citizens. We don’t yet know whether it will be deer or hares that come our way (or when); but lingonberries are on sale this week, and we need those for the sauce anyway, so we’re getting them now. Got it Well, it seems you never quite learned what it really means to be an East German citizen. When lingonberries are available, all of them are bought and large quantities are preserved. And if necessary, they are spread on bread until strawberries are available, and so on.
We recently rummaged through the old East German storage for the sewing machine department. If you could see it… Everything would have been pure gold back in East German times. Now it’s all junk. It breaks your heart.
11ant schrieb:
No, there are new windows, for which you have to explain to the tax office why they need to be replaced again after only two years—partly because the window openings will be changed again, and partly because the windows suffered damage during the construction phase.Yes, something like that. But hopefully, it will not turn out to be too bad.
kaho674 schrieb:
But we hope it won’t be too bad. But it will. You can see for yourself that there’s a whole chain of consequences: the windows are connected to the reveal insulation (which doesn’t necessarily have to be done at the same time, but must at least be planned). Then if things turn out differently, the windows might end up looking frameless from the outside (especially with divided lights or muntins at certain angles!), or they’ll be built deliberately smaller just to be safe. Dilemmas are like honey for philosophers, but vinegar for practitioners.
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