ᐅ Floor plan for a 160 sqm urban villa – Requesting advice!
Created on: 28 Jan 2019 09:23
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Bauherrin92
Hello everyone,
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
tumaa schrieb:
I always thought that a gable roof is cheaper and simpler than a hip or pyramid roof, or is irony playing a role here?!I see a gable roof with three gables—guess where the complexity lies.
By the way, I also don’t see a rectangular shape but rather a gable designed as a bay projection.
The whole thing is somewhat off-topic.
ypg schrieb:
And by the way, I don’t see a rectangular shape either, but rather the gable designed as a bay.It just evolved like that while experimenting. ypg schrieb:
A bit off-topic, the whole thing Yeah, where the boss is absent – you immediately get chaos, you know.
Looks quite nice.
It is. Every ridge and hip adds cost—more precisely, every "joint" between two roof surfaces, especially when it runs at an angle or is three-dimensional.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
tumaa schrieb:
I always thought that a gable roof is cheaper and easier than a hip or pyramid roof,
It is. Every ridge and hip adds cost—more precisely, every "joint" between two roof surfaces, especially when it runs at an angle or is three-dimensional.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
Looks quite nice. Isn't it? The project now features a nice gallery on the upper floor and a laundry chute in the bathroom that goes down to the basement.
Oh man, I have to stop wasting my time.
The original poster hasn’t said anything since. I hope the emergency isn’t worse.
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Bauherrin921 Feb 2019 16:06Hello everyone,
I won’t go into detail over 6 pages, here is the most important in brief:
I don’t think age says anything about financial means. The half-landing staircase was just a question, I thought that was allowed here. And no, 800 euros is not a problem.
Floor height is 2.63 m (8 ft 8 in) if I remember correctly. But I don’t see how that would influence the floor plan.
That is correct, but it concerns the back part of the garden. This slope has no or minimal effect on the house itself, which is why I indicated slope: no.
I’ll say nothing except: no one is required to reply here if they are not interested.
And I’m thankful for that, but...
This does not reflect our wishes at all, as stated in #1.
That was never mentioned by me...
These additions are nice, but they don’t help us move forward.
Better to continue working on this instead:
Exactly!
I won’t go into detail over 6 pages, here is the most important in brief:
kaho674 schrieb:
Converting 3 floors at 26 years old – that’s quite something. And anyone who has to ask what a half-landing staircase costs more…
I don’t think age says anything about financial means. The half-landing staircase was just a question, I thought that was allowed here. And no, 800 euros is not a problem.
kaho674 schrieb:
When making plans, it helps to know the floor height
Floor height is 2.63 m (8 ft 8 in) if I remember correctly. But I don’t see how that would influence the floor plan.
11ant schrieb:
about 2.37 m (7 ft 9 in) slope between the streets
That is correct, but it concerns the back part of the garden. This slope has no or minimal effect on the house itself, which is why I indicated slope: no.
Zaba12 schrieb:
Oh man, what a waste of time! Sorry, you could have said that earlier so no one would have bothered.
I’ll say nothing except: no one is required to reply here if they are not interested.
ypg schrieb:
And Katja made some drawings despite having a cough.
And I’m thankful for that, but...
kaho674 schrieb:
City villa – that’s boring. Here’s how #60 looks now:
This does not reflect our wishes at all, as stated in #1.
kaho674 schrieb:
The design now has a nice gallery on the upper floor and a laundry chute from the bathroom down to the basement.
That was never mentioned by me...
These additions are nice, but they don’t help us move forward.
Better to continue working on this instead:
kaho674 schrieb:
another attempt with almost 10x10 m (33x33 ft):
face26 schrieb:
If the original poster writes here… It’s not a problem, my general contractor is also willing to change exterior walls or square meters without much fuss, so it fits and everything is fine.
Exactly!
Good choice
I would recess the pantry slightly to benefit the kitchen (the corner in the middle); I would connect the island on the other side...
If you need more space in the kitchen (or was it you who doesn’t cook that much?), and the pantry is mainly for cleaning supplies and trash, then I would create the access from the cloakroom.
If not, then the cloakroom storage could also be closed off.
Unfortunately, Katja didn’t provide any dimensions... :P
Upstairs, I would reduce the walk-in closet a bit so that the children’s rooms gain some extra space.
Otherwise, it might be best if you indicate what you like and what you don’t.
I would recess the pantry slightly to benefit the kitchen (the corner in the middle); I would connect the island on the other side...
If you need more space in the kitchen (or was it you who doesn’t cook that much?), and the pantry is mainly for cleaning supplies and trash, then I would create the access from the cloakroom.
If not, then the cloakroom storage could also be closed off.
Unfortunately, Katja didn’t provide any dimensions... :P
Upstairs, I would reduce the walk-in closet a bit so that the children’s rooms gain some extra space.
Otherwise, it might be best if you indicate what you like and what you don’t.
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